Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?
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On this other forum that I frequent, there is this idiot who constantly
find threads that have had no activity for literally years and he bumps
them just to say, "me too" or some crap like that. Here is the
latest example:
The last post to that thread was feb. 2002! WTF?
WTMF?? I hate this guy! The mods wont do anything
either. In fact, I'll probably get yelled at for calling him an
idiot (in the most polite way possible).
It makes it really hard to keep up with the board when I have to filter
through all this old crap in order to find the new stuff.
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@tofu said:
On this other forum that I frequent, there is this idiot who constantly
find threads that have had no activity for literally years and he bumps
them just to say, "me too" or some crap like that. Here is the
latest example:
The last post to that thread was feb. 2002! WTF?
WTMF?? I hate this guy! The mods wont do anything
either. In fact, I'll probably get yelled at for calling him an
idiot (in the most polite way possible).
It makes it really hard to keep up with the board when I have to filter
through all this old crap in order to find the new stuff.Just ask the board's moderator to delete his posts, bump the threads back to their original position and ban the sucker, plain and simple. They more than likely have mod tools to do it, or the main admin has.
At least, he doesn't use a bot to crapbump all the old topics back to top (which is quite fun but for the admin when you crash a table after bumping 50k threads in an hour)
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@masklinn said:
Just ask the board's moderator to delete his posts, bump the threads
back to their original position and ban the sucker, plain and simple.
They more than likely have mod tools to do it, or the main admin has.
Wouldn't be easier if the forum software blocked a new post on a old thread like that?
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I agree
Heh j/k, I hate those kinds of posting idiots. No one cares if you agree or not, if you have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, then don't bother throwing in your two-word comment.
As for blocking new posts on old threads, you'd have to set some kind of timeout so that when a thread reaches a certain age, it becomes read-only. The problem would be what timeout to use. On IMDB, boards for Lost and 24 should probably have a timeout of 30 days because there's a lot of activity for an ongoing show. But for others, like messageboards for directors, it could be weeks that go by without a new post. That would make basically every topic read-only before the conversation takes off. You can't define a particular number to use for everything, you would need to customize it for every messageboard set which would be a huge pain in the @$$.
That's why every decent messageboard has moderators. The mods in this case should realize that his comment was useless and revived a thread that was closed out. I agree, delete his post, maybe even ban his account, and put reset the thread's data so it goes back to 2002.
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Usenet doesn't have these kinds of problems. NNTP readers have killfiles. Messages are stored and retrieved as individual units instead of amorphous web pages. The reader has ample information to sort, slice, and dice the thread and give the user what he wants.
Web forum software really pisses me off.
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@ehabkost said:
@masklinn said:
Just ask the board's moderator to delete his posts, bump the threads
back to their original position and ban the sucker, plain and simple.
They more than likely have mod tools to do it, or the main admin has.
Wouldn't be easier if the forum software blocked a new post on a old thread like that?A few forums have the ability to block bumps (mainly when a thread gets pushed to "archive"), but it's quite uncommon and can be annoying (bumps do, from time to time, bring relevant informations to an old thread).
Now handling this kind of stupidities on a forum IS the job of the mods, if they don't do their job drop them and find new moderators.
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@Brendan Kidwell said:
Usenet doesn't have these kinds of problems. NNTP readers have killfiles. Messages are stored and retrieved as individual units instead of amorphous web pages. The reader has ample information to sort, slice, and dice the thread and give the user what he wants.
Web forum software really pisses me off.
On the other hand, trying to find any relevant conversations in usenet prior to google groups (yes, I did occasionally use deja) was a pain to simply impossible (if several of the posters used X-no-archive). News servers would drop posts after a few weeks, if you didn't archive yourself you're out of luck. Forums on the other hand have all of the threads conveniently packaged up for you, thought searching isn't always painless.
Many do continue to prove that the webforum idea has its limitations and well-moderated wikis are much better for distilling and disseminating information than well-moderated forums with 20-page threads.
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@foxyshadis said:
@Brendan Kidwell said:
Usenet doesn't have these kinds of problems.
On
the other hand, trying to find any relevant conversations in usenet
prior to google groups (yes, I did occasionally use deja) was a pain to
simply impossible (if several of the posters used X-no-archive). News
servers would drop posts after a few weeks, if you didn't archive
yourself you're out of luck.
Well, Opera Software, Stardock, and Microsoft are three examples of
companies running their own NNTP-based newsgroups. They are all
well-moderated, and if you connect directly to their servers with
Thunderbird, you can see every thread back to the beginning of time. I
like that style of feedback forums much better than most web-based crap.
But, your point is taken: most of Usenet--the more or less unmoderated talk groups--is a wasteland!
I just wish more moderated forums used NNTP protocol and their own private servers.
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God. Don't you HATE when people bump long dead posts? It's like their some sort of necrophiliac.
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@Zjm7891 said:
God. Don't you HATE when people bump long dead posts? It's like their some sort of necrophiliac.
No, I only hate people who bump long dead posts and people who reply to them when they do so. Oh, and people who write web forum software which doesn't incorporate proper kill filters.
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I think bumping should be solved by sorting the post list by number of users that posted on it in the last X days, instead of sorting by the timestamp of the last post
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@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think bumping should be solved by sorting the post list by number of users that posted on it in the last X days, instead of sorting by the timestamp of the last post
A god dammit fbmac and on topic. If I had a hat to doff I would.
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That first sentence in the OP, though, together with the customized GODDAMNIT banner.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think bumping should be solved by sorting the post list by number of users that posted on it in the last X days, instead of sorting by the timestamp of the last post
I think that would just exacerbate the mega-thread "problem," and new threads would start out with a serious handicap.
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@error said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think bumping should be solved by sorting the post list by number of users that posted on it in the last X days, instead of sorting by the timestamp of the last post
I think that would just exacerbate the mega-thread "problem," and new threads would start out with a serious handicap.
I guess having multiple sorting options is just more complexity.
Locking and archiving, meanwhile...
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I think "it depends".... I deal with classic computers (1960s, early 1970s). There are many discussions that are from the dawn of time...Some of them get revived a decade later. THis is better than a new thread because the interested parties (if their e-mail is still the same) get notification.
That was how I found out the last known company that could re-plate hard drive platters/drums was closing shop a few years ago... Squeeked in and got a number of them re-done.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think bumping should be solved by sorting the post list by number of users that posted on it in the last X days, instead of sorting by the timestamp of the last post
Some forums implement an age threshold, where non-moderators cannot post in a topic which has not had posts for some configurable amount of time.
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@HardwareGeek I am 12 and what is this
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@HardwareGeek I begin to worry that age restrictions are going to start excluding me at the upper end.
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@tofu said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
The mods wont do anything
either.Ah, the days before we had memes to excuse and explain behaviours...
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Guest said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
Many do continue to prove that the webforum idea has its limitations and well-moderated wikis are much better for distilling and disseminating information than well-moderated forums with 20-page threads.
The future @wood felt that... and took the wrong takeaway.
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@blek said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
@HardwareGeek I am 12 and what is this
Check out my thread in the lounge, I'll explain everything.
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@masklinn said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
Just ask the board's moderator to delete his posts, bump the threads back to their original position and ban the sucker, plain and simple.
@mods I'd like to ask you to delete @sockpuppet7's posts, bump this thread back to its original position and ban the sucker.
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@Gąska I have armor
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@error said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think that would just exacerbate the mega-thread "problem," and new threads would start out with a serious handicap.
This is a tractable problem. One way would be to create some heuristics to score the threads and sort from there
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@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
@error said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think that would just exacerbate the mega-thread "problem," and new threads would start out with a serious handicap.
This is a tractable problem. One way would be to create some heuristics to score the threads and sort from there
Wouldn't that just result in "damn auto-closing bot is malfunctioning again" posts? Every time you automate this sort of thing, there's some outspoken minority that hates the result.
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@PotatoEngineer said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
Every time you
automate this sort ofdo anything, there's some outspoken minority that hates the result.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
@error said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
I think that would just exacerbate the mega-thread "problem," and new threads would start out with a serious handicap.
This is a tractable problem. One way would be to create some heuristics to score the threads and sort from there
Ah yes, because what we need in life is more impenetrable heuristics
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@HardwareGeek said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
@PotatoEngineer said in Bumping Old Posts - w-t-m-f?:
Every time you
automate this sort ofdo anything, there's some outspoken minority that hates the result.<insert xkcd breaks workflow link> ()