Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!
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The two categories have the SAME FUCKING COLOR, so I'm in a fucking Civilized Salon category and making an ass of myself breaking all the rules and I don't even fucking know it.
What's wrong with you people?!
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I've never had a problem distinguishing the two, and people put AMAs in the Civilized Salon because they want people to be civilized.
What's wrong with you person?!
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I think I started it with the Christianity thread; because of the slight semantic difference of I didn't want people to Look At Me! but offered to discuss Christianity in a Civilized way, adding that I'm a Christian.
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@blakeyrat said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
making an ass of myself breaking all the rules
What do you think is going to happen? Is a mod going to come to your house and spank you? Noone cares if you make an ass of yourself, anyone who posts here frequently does this, well, frequently. Stop worrying and embrace your inner ass.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blakeyrat said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
making an ass of myself breaking all the rules
What do you think is going to happen? Is a mod going to come to your house and spank you? Noone cares if you make an ass of yourself, anyone who posts here frequently does this, well, frequently. Stop worrying and embrace your inner ass.
Flagrantly breaking the rules is actually a horrible idea.
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@blek I'd rather follow the category rules. I just didn't know what category I was in since AMAs are always in fucking Look At Me! goddamnit.
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@blakeyrat I just did what Ben did.
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@blakeyrat I'm not saying you should just go ahead and be an asshole for the sake of it, but from what I've seen... yes, you like to rant, but it's not really hurtful, it's not (usually) towards other users, it's usually about (from your point of view) shitty technology - and avoiding personal attacks is what I think is the main point of the Salon. As far as I'm concerned, go ahead, be the way you usually are in the Salon as well.
(Then again I also think that whole category is a joke, so... and also, if you seriously have trouble telling the categories apart, maybe you actually deserve to feel like an ass. )
((Now that I think of it, anyone posting on this forum probably deserves to feel like an ass for one reason or another. Hmmm.))
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Honestly, in some cases, it has to be done. The gun AMA got a passive aggressive post within the first four, and has likely been muted by people who would otherwise fill it with an argument that would have to be taken to the garage.
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@magus Could we at least make them different COLORS? I mean basic usability here. (Oh wait, it's NodeBB.)
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@magus What, you mean the thing @kt_ posted? Don't mind him, he was just high (low?) on instant coffee. Also he's from eastern Europe, you have to cut him some slack
I think people mute Salon threads for other reasons. Myself, I fucking hate the "floof" threads, it's forced and dumb, so I just don't participate in those. On the other side, IIRC @Yamikuronue participated in one of the first threads ever made in that category but specifically stated that if someone says <x> (I can't remember what it was exactly, but it was something personal to her and/or her friends), she'll mute it. Then someone said <x> anyway, in what I recall to be a completely inoffensive manner, and I haven't seen her post in the Salon ever since. I might be wrong, of course, I don't watch everything that happens on this forum - but I think that's what happened.
The point of the above is, people will still mute the Salon, even if we did manage to have a civilized conversation at all times, with absolutely no trolling. Noone can stop anyone from muting anything, and trying to achieve a state where nobody mutes it... there's no way to do that except ban everyone from posting. What's stopping me, a libertarian, from muting the category if anyone mentions the government? What's stopping me from fucking with everyone else by muting it randomly - are you required to cater to my trolling?
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@blakeyrat If you really want to complain about colors, General Help and Civilized Salon are much more similar to each other than Salon and Look At Me are. At the same time, Look At Me, I-Hate-Oracle Club and Sandbox are almost identical as well.
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@blek How about for every topic that has rules attached (Civilized Salon, General/Coding Help) there's a little icon of like a sheet of rules next to the icon everywhere it appears.
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@blakeyrat Nobody would read that anyway. I think every user should be required to wear a shock collar, and a totally-not-idiotic Deep LearningTM engine should decide who gets 230V in the jugular. The collars should also be part of the forum's two-factor authentication. Actually maybe 3 factor: your password, your collar with an unique identifier, and you also have to cut out your own kidney and mail it to the Login Guy who lives in Ryugyong Hotel, Pyongyang. Expect your login approval letter to arrive in your mail within the next 6 months.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blakeyrat said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
making an ass of myself breaking all the rules
What do you think is going to happen? Is a mod going to come to your house and spank you?
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blakeyrat Nobody would read that anyway. I think every user should be required to wear a shock collar, and a totally-not-idiotic Deep LearningTM engine should decide who gets 230V in the jugular. The collars should also be part of the forum's two-factor authentication. Actually maybe 3 factor: your password, your collar with an unique identifier, and you also have to cut out your own kidney and mail it to the Login Guy who lives in Ryugyong Hotel, Pyongyang. Expect your login approval letter to arrive in your mail within the next 6 months.
That just weeds out all the smart people. The dumb people will follow any instructions you give them, as long as it can be followed by clicking the largest and most brightly colored button on the page (i.e. accept the agreement to have this carried out by drone).
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
I haven't seen her post in the Salon ever since
I have a couple times. But I haven't been posting much of anywhere lately. My unreads has been at 99+ for over a week.
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@yamikuronue My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
Anyway, I noticed you seem to post less than what seems usual, at least outside the gaming category - I don't watch the Mafia etc. threads. I had a specific thread in mind, something in the Salon where you said you'll only participate as long as nobody says a specific thing - and then I guess someone said that anyway, in what was IIRC a very civil manner, but you still seem to have stopped participating in these threads. In light of what you just said, I think it was just a coincidence; in the post you replied to I thought it was because we drove you away.
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@pie_flavor Curb your ableism - I've met plenty of smart people like that. Smart people can be dumb too!
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@blek I said I was having trouble participating in a discussion of trans people because it's very personal to me, so I'd need people to be gentle. Someone said being trans was a mental illness we just need to cure. So I left the thread, because I was getting emotional. Isn't that what you'd want?
But yeah, I didn't quit the salon so much as stop posting in the forums much overall outside of games. Unrelated to that thread.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
I think every user should be required to wear a shock collar, and a totally-not-idiotic Deep LearningTM engine should decide who gets 230V in the jugular.
Careful, that's someone's kink...
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
I compulsively aim to keep it under 30 by the end of the day each night.
Doing pretty good so far...
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@yamikuronue Yeah, that was it. Also, I have in no way meant to offend you in any way - I
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-mentioned (dammit, I can't escape a @?!) you only because you were part of that conversation, not to screw with you or anything like that.My point was that, @magus said people are leaving the Salon and that it was a bad thing, and I'm saying there's no way to stop anyone ever leaving any kind of place. There's no way to stop me from muting the Salon claiming I'm offended by a lack of KSÄŒM voices, or a lack of KKK voices. People will mute anything that doesn't align with their views.
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@tsaukpaetra I had mine at 0 for months, though I had the Garage muted. It's oddly freeing to let it go.
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@tsaukpaetra Yeah but you're a robot, that doesn't count. I'm a meatbag and worrying about my unread count is just way too much stress for the fragile sack of intestines we like to call a body.
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@blek I like to hope that's not entirely true, but it's just a vain hope for humanity being able to overcome political partisanship and share real conversations, not really based in any facts.
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@yamikuronue I'm not sure what you mean - what do you hope isn't entirely true?
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@blek This part:
@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
People will mute anything that doesn't align with their views.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@tsaukpaetra Yeah but you're a robot, that doesn't count. I'm a meatbag and worrying about my unread count is just way too much stress for the fragile sack of intestines we like to call a body.
Hmm. I wonder if that's what's wrong with my own intestines? It's rather distressing how full my warning and error logs are regarding that subsystem...
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@tsaukpaetra
man journalctl
and search for "vacuum" - those options should help you keep your logs in check.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@tsaukpaetra
man journalctl
and search for "vacuum" - those options should help you keep your logs in check.I didn't say the logs were full or taking up space (blessings and annoyance of using referential implicitly deduplicating memory trees)...
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@yamikuronue Right, yeah, I was exaggerating a little bit. And I really mean little because we all do that all the time; you do it, I do it, everyone you or I have ever met does it. It's completely natural.
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@Tsaukpaetra Sure, but if you delete your logs immediately then you have nothing to worry about. It's not logged = it didn't happen!
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
I've been tempted, but I try to fight the impulse and hear people out. I try to only mute when either I can't keep my calm, or I don't think there's anything to be learned.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@Tsaukpaetra Sure, but if you delete your logs immediately then you have nothing to worry about. It's not logged = it didn't happen!
Yeah, but unlinking memory is more annoying to do than bad-blocking. And usually less successful too...
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@yamikuronue There are topics in the Garage that seriously get my blood pressure up. Not in the same way as you, but still, some of that shit just makes me extremely uncomfortable, and I'm a massive shitlord.
But anyway, I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I originally
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-mentioned you because I thought you muted the whole category because someone said something you didn't like, and apparently that's not what happened, so I apologize and carry on :)
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
Also
:)
is absolutely not supopsed to be displayed as:D
. Fix this or I'll sue!
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@pie_flavor said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blakeyrat said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
making an ass of myself breaking all the rules
What do you think is going to happen? Is a mod going to come to your house and spank you? Noone cares if you make an ass of yourself, anyone who posts here frequently does this, well, frequently. Stop worrying and embrace your inner ass.
Flagrantly breaking the rules is actually a horrible idea.
YMBNH
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
Now that I think of it, anyone posting on this forum probably deserves to feel like an ass for one reason or another.
Done and dusted.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
Myself, I fucking hate the "floof" threads, it's forced and dumb, so I just don't participate in those.
Yeah, and when I pointed that out I got a shitload of downvotes and I was even nice about it.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blakeyrat If you really want to complain about colors, General Help and Civilized Salon are much more similar to each other than Salon and Look At Me are. At the same time, Look At Me, I-Hate-Oracle Club and Sandbox are almost identical as well.
Try being colorblind, you ableist prick.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
I try to never let it get over one page (I think 40).
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@pie_flavor Curb your ableism - I've met plenty of smart people like that. Smart people can be dumb too!
We've got different definitions of 'smart'. I've never accepted a EULA I didn't read thoroughly (did you know that many companies just copy-paste that shit verbatim? I've encountered a fair number of companies leaving the original product name in their modified EULA somewhere).
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@pie_flavor said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
I've encountered a fair number of companies leaving the original product name in their modified EULA somewhere
That would make for an interesting legal defense. "The EULA said I must not [do XYZ] to $other_product. At no point did I [do XYZ] to $other_product. I [did XYZ] to $this_product, which is not prohibited in the EULA of $this_product at any point."
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@polygeekery said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
Myself, I fucking hate the "floof" threads, it's forced and dumb, so I just don't participate in those.
Yeah, and when I pointed that out I got a shitload of downvotes and I was even nice about it.
Ha!
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
This. I think maybe I saw mine less than 99+ once since that indicator has existed, and that was probably due to a server malfunction. It's just "the thing I click on to get back to the Unread page;" the actual number is meaningless.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
I just use the Recent list and use the visited/unvisited link styling to see which threads have unread posts.
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@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@magus What, you mean the thing @kt_ posted? Don't mind him, he was just high (low?) on instant coffee. Also he's from eastern Europe, you have to cut him some slack
What did I do wrong? I asked a question, I contributed material, I got an answer and that was it.
If anything, my post in @masonwheeler’s thread was more trollish.
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@pie_flavor said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@pie_flavor Curb your ableism - I've met plenty of smart people like that. Smart people can be dumb too!
We've got different definitions of 'smart'. I've never accepted a EULA I didn't read thoroughly (did you know that many companies just copy-paste that shit verbatim? I've encountered a fair number of companies leaving the original product name in their modified EULA somewhere).
Yeah. It's pretty funny!
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@tsaukpaetra said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
@blek said in Why are people putting AMAs in Civilized Salon instead of Look At Me!:
My unreads have been at 99+ for... ever, really. Does anyone actually use that?
I compulsively aim to keep it under 30 by the end of the day each night.
Doing pretty good so far...
I solved that problem long ago
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