Fun with maps
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@Arantor More literally:
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@Arantor said in Fun with maps:
I don't see no weapon in Bolivia's … … apparently Bolivia has a civil flag, that is just red, yellow and green stripe, and a state flag, which additionally has the coat of arms on it. TIL.
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@Bulb Surely a maple leaf can be used as a weapon, no?
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@da-Doctah said in Fun with maps:
@Bulb Surely a maple leaf can be used as a weapon, no?
Only in its native climate. Once it unfreezes, it's safe to encounter.
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@Gurth That's the other way round, countries that incorporate flags into their weapons.
HTH, HAND
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@ixvedeusi said in Fun with maps:
@Gurth That's the other way round, countries that incorporate flags into their weapons.
It’s a weapon in a flag, though. (Granted, I only posted that one because I couldn’t quickly find a photo of a weapon wrapped in a cloth flag.)
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@loopback0 And then they'd been in Edinburgh/Geneva (Cross out what is not appropriate). Why would they do that to themselves?
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@PleegWatsaid in Fun with maps:@loopback0 And then they'd been in Edinburgh/Geneva (Cross out what is not appropriate). Why would they do that to themselves?
HTH, HAND
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@PleegWat said in Fun with maps:
@loopback0 And then they'd been in Edinburgh/Geneva (Cross out what is not appropriate). Why would they do that to themselves?
To lay down at your door, of course.
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@Zerosquare One problem I spot there: Iceland. Few or very few people will have Jónsdóttir as an actual last name there. Iceland is also somehow coloured blue for the name “signifying patronage” instead of red for “Patronymic, matronymic, or ancestral” when you can’t get more patronymic than names like this.
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@Zerosquare Another flaw: the title of the map says "last name", but it seems they ignored that in those places where the family name comes first (Japan, Hungary, etc).
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@Zerosquare It would also be better if they unified the male and female forms where they differ, though it wouldn't probably change the results, because the male and female form should be similarly common for each.
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@Bulb Where applicable, it would not give them a penalty compared to last names which do not have gendered forms.
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Also Garcia apparently means something in Andorra but not in Spain.
Still, an interesting/amusing map.
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I want to see one of those old war movies where the squadron commander calls his men: "Schmidt! Herrera! Kovacs! Get in here on the double!"
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@Zerosquare It's actually kinda funny that a female surname is the most common one on Iceland, considering that the last bunch of decades men outnumber women there.
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@Carnage Could be just a case of Jón being the most common men’s name in Iceland, and that by some fluke, men called Jón on average have more daughters than sons. Even if there’s only one more Jónsdóttir than Jónsson, it makes Jónsdóttir the name to appear on this map.
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@Bulb said in Fun with maps:
@Zerosquare It would also be better if they unified the male and female forms where they differ, though it wouldn't probably change the results, because the male and female form should be similarly common for each.
The correct terms for grammar gender are "masculine" and "feminine" ; words are not "male" or "female" (the people identified by the words might be, but that is not really the issue here).
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Fun with maps:
but that is not really the issue here
it is. As I understand it, the surnames in e. g. Iceland depend on the person's gender. The sons of a guy called Jón will be called Jónsson, his daughers Jónsdóttir. I don't think names even have a grammatical gender?
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@ixvedeusi said in Fun with maps:
I don't think names even have a grammatical gender?
In most Slavic languages they do. Well, most of them, because surnames derived from nouns use a feminine suffix (e.g. ‘-ová’ in Czech or ‘-a’ in Russian), surnames derived from adjectives use the masculine or feminine forms (because adjectives have all three gender forms to match the subject they apply to) and surnames derived from adverbs are inflexible and don't have separate forms.
I still used ‘male’ and ‘female’ because it is governed by the gender of the persons referred to rather than pure grammar.
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Another mislabeled country would be Israel, which technically should be labeled "Occupational", since Cohen is the Hebrew word for priest. Though in Judaism being a priest was hereditary, "Cohen" was not the given name of a person.
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@ixvedeusi said in Fun with maps:
I have perfect confidence that someone will correct me if I'm wrong
Doesn’t look like you did, except for calling them “surnames” which implies a family name. Something like 90% of people from Iceland don’t have that at all; IIRC the ones that do are all descended from immigrants, who get to keep their family names when they become Icelandic citizens.
Not really related to the above at all, but Iceland apparently also issues passports on request in which the father’s “surname” appears for all members of a family, to avoid foreign immigration officials thinking that they might be dealing with kidnappers or something (“Man called Jónsson, woman called Porsdóttir, a supposed child of theirs called Bjørnsson …? Time to call in reinforcements.”)
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@Gurth I am now remembered of the case of Prawo Jazdy, the scofflaw who racked up traffic violations in Ireland with over fifty different addresses, until someone finally realized that traffic cops were copying the Polish words for "driver's license" onto the citations.