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Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Last post 05-25-2008 2:54 PM by pubbing. 37 replies.
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05-22-2008 11:54 AM
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archivator


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Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Sorry if this has already been mentioned.
Right. Let's start off by handing you a pretty harmless link:
MSNBC's Spectra
Play around with the thing. Let the horror sink in. Scream a little, bang your head, if needed. Discuss.
P.S.: I would love to hear what a professional (someone working in the field of accessibility) has to say about this Web ∞.0 application.
P.P.S.: A friend of mine just mentioned that the thing can become even flashier, if you have a webcam enabled.
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dysmas


- Joined on 12-15-2006
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
It resized my browser, i left shortly after.
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morbiuswilters


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Hmm.. it seems a bit heavier on the eyecandy than is necessary and it doesn't feel like the easiest thing to use, but I don't see a huge problem. It's certainly kind of "pretty" and fun to click around on.
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Nelle


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
morbiuswilters:Hmm.. it seems a bit heavier on the eyecandy than is necessary and it doesn't feel like the easiest thing to use, but I don't see a huge problem. It's certainly kind of "pretty" and fun to click around on. There are plenty of other News Sites/Browsers/Readers ... This one is a bit different ... I don't see TRWTF ...
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pinguis


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
As for the accessibility, flash and accessibility dont mix, ever.
As for the rest... i dont see the problem either
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Yorick


- Joined on 03-26-2008
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
I'm mildly surprised that they used Flash. AS2, at least, isn't particularly well-suited for 3D apps; AS3, I dunno.Just to give it a stress-test, I loaded up about 10 channels. The CPU pegged shortly afterward, and FF's memory usage ramped up to about 196M. This is with only two other tabs open, mind, with static html displayed. Would a java applet have been a better choice here, or would that suffer from the same accessibility and slow third-party library problems that Flash does in this instance?
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bstorer


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
pinguis:As for the accessibility, flash and accessibility dont mix, ever.
Nonsense. Flash is great for the metally-challenged. Wait, we are talking about developing in Flash, right?
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burntfuse


- Joined on 05-16-2007
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Personally I think the eye candy is way over the top, with the news stories that float around randomly in 3D and then zoom towards you and do a flip when you pick one. And when you do a search they all slowly drop out of sight while rotating, except for the matching ones which fly into view. It looks like someone just learned how to do 3D stuff in Flash and felt they had to use it. And what's with the color sensor view, which apparently requires a webcam? Seriously, what's that doing in an RSS reader? What also really bothers me is that even though a bunch of stories are floating around in front of you, you can't just click the one you want - clicking just brings in the next one in order, which you have to keep on doing until it gets to the one you want. I'd much rather have a plain 2D list, which lets you look at whatever story you want in whatever order. I guess it's not a huge WTF though, more personal preference than anything else.
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rbowes


- Joined on 02-09-2007
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Although it's totally useless, it looks and feels kind of slick.
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archivator


- Joined on 07-16-2006
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Nelle:There are plenty of other News Sites/Browsers/Readers ... This one is a bit different ... I don't see TRWTF ...
Different is good, right?
How about inaccessible? Presumptuous? Plain stupid?
First, let's see what a news reader needs to be able to do with ease.
- Present you with headlines, from which to choose articles of interest
- Allow you to search within the headlines and/or articles
- Mark what you've read clearly, so that you don't read the same thing twice
- Keep an archive, so that you can go back to what you read yesterday
- Be unobtrusive. While this one is disputable, I know many people, myself included, who keep their news reader minimized throughout the day. It's quite convenient.
Now, let's see how Spectra covers each one of these:
- Well, yes, it does give you the headlines. Floating. Difficult to read. Impossible to select. It does not show you the article you selected. It shows you the first article, making you scroll to the article you need. How very useful.
- You can search through the flashcards you're currently
memorizing viewing but that's it. Can't search in the archives, or in news you've not selected.
- This one is absolutely missing. But then again, you have to read (or at least scroll) through every single article, which renders the read/unread division useless.
- This one's available, yes. It doesn't seem easy to handle large archives, though.
- No points here. This thing is almost as bad as Crysis. Too bad we don't get the same graphics quality.
Additional things which bug me:
- What is the target audience here? Limiting things to 10 articles per topic tells me that anyone with more than a superficial interest in any given area is out of the equation.
- The camera thing. I won't even start commenting on it.
- The RSS/Atom icon (you know the one). They keep using it! Stop it!
- Presenting text data as images. Wasting space. I'm no designer but even I can see the bad choices made here.
- Accessibility, anyone? Flash, mouse-dominant controls, pop-ups all over the place, incomprehensible skewed text. The list goes on.
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MasterPlanSoftware


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bstorer: Flash is great for the metally-challenged. No way, Flash has plenty of rusty iron content! OH! Mentally challenged? You must mean ColdFusion then!
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bstorer


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
rbowes:Although it's totally useless, it looks and feels kind of slick.
So does a seal coated in baby oil. But what good is that?
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MasterPlanSoftware


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archivator:Additional things which bug me:
Yes, I have been banned. Thanks to all for a good time.
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bstorer


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
MasterPlanSoftware: bstorer: Flash is great for the metally-challenged. No way, Flash has plenty of rusty iron content! OH! Mentally challenged?
I go to all the trouble of coming up with a perfectly nice insult, and then I ruin it with a careless typo. This is the worst day ever.
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rc_pinchey


- Joined on 08-15-2007
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
archivator:
Play around with the thing. Let the horror sink in. Scream a little, bang your head, if needed. Discuss.
I quite like it, actually.
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jetcitywoman


- Joined on 05-04-2006
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Wow, that is amazingly sucktastic! A good example of someone bouncing up and down in his seat, waving his arms, grinning like a lunatic and yelling "Oh! Oh! Me! Oh, me! Oh, slap ME!"
Seriously, I noticed first off how the headlines swirled off the top of the screen, even when I closed the bars at the top and bottom. But that didn't really matter once I noticed that clicking just gives you the stories in order, like people here pointed out. And when I changed it from orbital display to ... what was it called, automatic? The one where I was apparently in the center of the circle... I got nauseaus. And as a frequent player of 3d first-party shooter games, I'm not generally inclined to suffer nausea easily.
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morbiuswilters


- Joined on 01-15-2008
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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
archivator:Different is good, right?
How about inaccessible? Presumptuous? Plain stupid?
First, let's see what a news reader needs to be able to do with ease.
- Present you with headlines, from which to choose articles of interest
- Allow you to search within the headlines and/or articles
- Mark what you've read clearly, so that you don't read the same thing twice
- Keep an archive, so that you can go back to what you read yesterday
- Be unobtrusive. While this one is disputable, I know many people, myself included, who keep their news reader minimized throughout the day. It's quite convenient.
Now, let's see how Spectra covers each one of these:
- Well, yes, it does give you the headlines. Floating. Difficult to read. Impossible to select. It does not show you the article you selected. It shows you the first article, making you scroll to the article you need. How very useful.
- You can search through the flashcards you're currently
memorizing viewing but that's it. Can't search in the archives, or in news you've not selected.
- This one is absolutely missing. But then again, you have to read (or at least scroll) through every single article, which renders the read/unread division useless.
- This one's available, yes. It doesn't seem easy to handle large archives, though.
- No points here. This thing is almost as bad as Crysis. Too bad we don't get the same graphics quality.
Additional things which bug me:
- What is the target audience here? Limiting things to 10 articles per topic tells me that anyone with more than a superficial interest in any given area is out of the equation.
- The camera thing. I won't even start commenting on it.
- The RSS/Atom icon (you know the one). They keep using it! Stop it!
- Presenting text data as images. Wasting space. I'm no designer but even I can see the bad choices made here.
- Accessibility, anyone? Flash, mouse-dominant controls, pop-ups all over the place, incomprehensible skewed text. The list goes on.
You must curl up in a fetal position and bawl when you encounter 3D graphics of any kind. I think it's a bit over-the-top as far as a newsreader goes, but considering that it's a beta many of your minor complaints can be addressed in future revisions. Everything else just seems like pointless nit-picking. Don't like it? Don't use it. Several people already made positive comments about it so obviously there is a demand for something like this. As far as accessiblity goes, there are plenty of non-flash newsreaders available. And seriously, being handicapped means missing out on some things that other people get to experience. This constant complaining because someone uses rich media and doesn't provide a blind/deaf/mentally retarded version of the content is tiring. Besides, how else are we going to keep up-to-date on the impending genocide of the blind without tipping them off? Once we've purged the land of the Unsighted and split up their possessions, you'll be thanking Adobe for Flash.
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MasterPlanSoftware


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morbiuswilters:You must curl up in a fetal position and bawl when you encounter 3D graphics of any kind. If only half of our OPs on the sidebar understood what a WTF is.
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dlikhten


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Wheres the WTF? Its really flashy, its actually REALLY cool looking, I can think of a place to use that sort of interface where it would make actual sense. I thought that any moment now I am going to have bill gates jump out at me and steal my credit card. But that didn't happen. It sucks that you can't click on the article you want, you have to scroll. Their arangement/selection scheme sucks balls, but thats it, even with that i could just click x number of times to scroll past x articles, and was very responsive and animated.
Code is like a box of chocolates. You never know who stuck a turd in there and why. The Stupidest Man On EarthSSDS Bug: Program should not start up
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archivator


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
Hm, I nust be over-reacting, then.. Will take deep breaths. Right after I figure out why people take an over-fluffed, barely useful, and rather counter-intuitive web site as a normal thing these days.
Right. Got that off my chest, will go create a blogger ranting account or something.
Last thing, though, just out of curiosity, did anyone try the webcam color-matching?
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MasterPlanSoftware


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archivator:Right after I figure out why people take an over-fluffed, barely useful, and rather counter-intuitive web site as a normal thing these days. Did you just wake up from a coma?
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morbiuswilters


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Re: Spectra - the whole spectrum of WRONG
MasterPlanSoftware:Did you just wake up from a coma?
When did people stop using gopher, dagnabbit??
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bstorer


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morbiuswilters:When Why did people stop start using gopher, dagnabbit??
FTFY
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MasterPlanSoftware


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bstorer: morbiuswilters: Why did peoplefurries start using gopher, dagnabbit??
FTFY FTFY.
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