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Last post 05-21-2008 3:56 PM by dtech. 35 replies.
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  • 05-19-2008 8:10 PM

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    Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    Came across this while deleting a user on a debian box.

    It gave me about 4 seconds to press Ctrl+C, which I spent carefully reading the WARNING message. Fortunately it didn't actually delete the root account anyway.

  • 05-19-2008 10:56 PM In reply to

    • jnz
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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    Introduced on March 2: #145430 deluser 3.47 when multiple usernames correspond to a single uid and fixed on March 27: #469165 /usr/sbin/deluser: deluser thinks I want to remove the root user.  Note that this only affected testing, not stable.  If you want to stick with testing you might want to dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest package.
  • 05-20-2008 11:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    jnz:
    Introduced on March 2: #145430 deluser 3.47 when multiple usernames correspond to a single uid and fixed on March 27: #469165 /usr/sbin/deluser: deluser thinks I want to remove the root user.  Note that this only affected testing, not stable.  If you want to stick with testing you might want to dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest package.

     

    Linux: Perpetual Beta

     

  • 05-20-2008 11:36 AM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    jnz:
    Note that this only affected testing, not stable.
     
    alegr:
    Linux: Perpetual Beta
    And how does the second follow from the first. A bug's present in testing, not in stable. Stable is just that; it's in no way a 'perpetual beta'. Testing maybe (but what Debian mean by 'testing' is somewhat removed from what 'beta' usually means).

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  • 05-20-2008 11:43 AM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    alegr:
    Linux: Perpetual Beta
    LOOKIE ME I IZ CLIVR!!!


    Does "testing" mean nothing to you? (answer: it means you are ASKING FOR betas). Seriously, grow up or GTFO!

    MPS, please commence beating.
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  • 05-20-2008 11:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    alegr:

    jnz:
    Introduced on March 2: #145430 deluser 3.47 when multiple usernames correspond to a single uid and fixed on March 27: #469165 /usr/sbin/deluser: deluser thinks I want to remove the root user.  Note that this only affected testing, not stable.  If you want to stick with testing you might want to dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest package.

     

    Linux: Perpetual Beta

     

     A testing release with a bug? Scandalous!

  • 05-20-2008 12:25 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    CapitalT:
    Does "testing" mean nothing to you? (answer: it means you are ASKING FOR betas). Seriously, grow up or GTFO!
     

    No U!

    See? Someone says negative about linux and BOOM violent reaction.  But that is ok.

    Defend MS and you are teh shillz!

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  • 05-20-2008 12:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    Maciej:
     A testing release with a bug? Scandalous!
     

    And yet, watch the tech/noob blogs as soon as MS releases any beta. Watch them fill up with 'OMGz Noobz!' 'M$ sucks!' etc, etc.

    Any criticism Linux gets for this is well deserved IMO. 

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  • 05-20-2008 12:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    MasterPlanSoftware:

    CapitalT:
    Does "testing" mean nothing to you? (answer: it means you are ASKING FOR betas). Seriously, grow up or GTFO!
     

    No U!

    See? Someone says negative about linux and BOOM violent reaction.  But that is ok.

    Defend MS and you are teh shillz!

    Wow, what is going on in the world today? A flamer flames a linux-flamer, and then a flamer flames the linux-flamer-flamer. Does that make me a linux-flamer-flamer-flamer-flamer now?
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  • 05-20-2008 12:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    dtech:
    Wow, what is going on in the world today? A flamer flames a linux-flamer, and then a flamer flames the linux-flamer-flamer. Does that make me a linux-flamer-flamer-flamer-flamer now?
     

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  • 05-20-2008 1:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    MasterPlanSoftware:

    Maciej:
     A testing release with a bug? Scandalous!
     

    And yet, watch the tech/noob blogs as soon as MS releases any beta. Watch them fill up with 'OMGz Noobz!' 'M$ sucks!' etc, etc.

    Any criticism Linux gets for this is well deserved IMO. 

     

    Every time I use linux and think "Gee, linux works so f-ing well, I think i'll scrap windows now" I come across some nasty bug that requires 6 hours minimum of research to figure out that I needed to uncomment a single line in some defaults file.

    For fuck's sake its 2008, can't ubntu detect that I'm using SATA and enable DMA on hdd/cd-rom during installation? Why does it default to off? Cant they set good defaults?

     

    In any case, some bugs are just stupid, if Linux has it, it does not make it any less stupid.

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  • 05-20-2008 1:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    dlikhten:
    Every time I use linux and think "Gee, linux works so f-ing well, I think i'll scrap windows now" I come across some nasty bug that requires 6 hours minimum of research to figure out that I needed to uncomment a single line in some defaults file.
     

    Yeah but to be fair, you couldn't even manage to install Windows....

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  • 05-20-2008 1:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    MasterPlanSoftware:
    Yeah but to be fair, you couldn't even manage to install Windows....

    Windows is hard to install! So many clicks on "Next"...

  • 05-20-2008 1:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

     

    bstorer:
    Windows is hard to install! So many clicks on "Next"...

    Yeah but then you have to *gasp* UPDATE it! WTF??!!!

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  • 05-20-2008 1:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    MasterPlanSoftware:

     

    bstorer:
    Windows is hard to install! So many clicks on "Next"...

    Yeah but then you have to *gasp* UPDATE it! WTF??!!!

    It's just a money grab by Microsoft. They only put out new versions so that I'll have to update my 8-year-old software.

  • 05-20-2008 2:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    bstorer:
    It's just a money grab by Microsoft. They only put out new versions so that I'll have to update my 8-year-old software.
     

    What did you expect  from a CONVICTED MONOPOLIST?!

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  • 05-20-2008 2:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    MasterPlanSoftware:

    dlikhten:
    Every time I use linux and think "Gee, linux works so f-ing well, I think i'll scrap windows now" I come across some nasty bug that requires 6 hours minimum of research to figure out that I needed to uncomment a single line in some defaults file.
     

    Yeah but to be fair, you couldn't even manage to install Windows....

     

    Wait what? Installing windows takes a very long time (with all the updates), never said it was a problem. Its just much faster to install linux caz you can download the latest version into an installer CD vs having to install, then download 1,000 patches

    For the most part installing windows, while time consuming, is a breeze compared to installing linux, unless you are one of the lucky onces and 100% of your hardware is supported out-of-the-box by the installer.


    Ok 6 hrs minimum was over-exadurated.

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  • 05-20-2008 2:20 PM In reply to

    • dtech
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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    dlikhten:

    MasterPlanSoftware:

    dlikhten:
    Every time I use linux and think "Gee, linux works so f-ing well, I think i'll scrap windows now" I come across some nasty bug that requires 6 hours minimum of research to figure out that I needed to uncomment a single line in some defaults file.
     

    Yeah but to be fair, you couldn't even manage to install Windows....

     

    Wait what? Installing windows takes a very long time (with all the updates), never said it was a problem. Its just much faster to install linux caz you can download the latest version into an installer CD vs having to install, then download 1,000 patches

    For the most part installing windows, while time consuming, is a breeze compared to installing linux, unless you are one of the lucky onces and 100% of your hardware is supported out-of-the-box by the installer.


    Ok 6 hrs minimum was over-exadurated.

    Then you have different experiences than me. While I just am using windows (can't go without my games and wine just doesn't quite get them) I've installed linux a few times. The only thing I've always have had problems with is my wlan card. I already had one when you still paid ƒ1300 for a access point (that's a guilder; 2,20 is a euro and at the time it was about $600) and it hasn't improved to me since. Right now I have a flashed WRT54G (dd-wrt) which acts as the bridge to the WLAN. About 99% connection quality and no configuration whathowever on any system. Delicious.
  • 05-20-2008 2:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    dlikhten:
    over-exadurated.
     

    Sorry, what?

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  • 05-20-2008 2:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    The delay was done with

    for( int i = 0; i < 10000; ++i ) {}

    It worked fine on a 133 MHz Pentium.  Your computer is just too fast.

    (The rest of the comments in this thread are the real WTF.) 

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  • 05-20-2008 4:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    AlpineR:

    The delay was done with

    for( int i = 0; i < 10000; ++i ) {}

    It worked fine on a 133 MHz Pentium.  Your computer is just too fast.

    (The rest of the comments in this thread are the real WTF.) 

     

    Is that a joke or that is the actual code?

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  • 05-20-2008 4:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    dlikhten:

    Is that a joke or that is the actual code?

     

    The program was a shell script so the actual code was "sleep 5": http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/adduser/trunk/deluser?rev=766&r1=746&r2=766.  It has been changed in the source repository  to use a --force command line parameter instead: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/adduser/trunk/deluser?rev=781&r1=780&r2=781.  Presumably this fix will appear in the next version of the package.

  • 05-20-2008 4:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    If you don't want to deal with bugs like these, run debian stable.

    If you want fresher packages than stable offers, either find 3rd party repositories, or switch to ubuntu. 

  • 05-20-2008 5:04 PM In reply to

    • dlikhten
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    Re: Press immediately Ctrl+C if you don't want to render system unusable

    jnz:

     

    Well now its actually better. At least it was sleep 5 and not a loop.

    merreborn:


    In any case, stable or not, the original solution was just stupid. You can't excuse stupidity with "hey its unstable".

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