Why mathematicians are no fun at parties



  • @TheCPUWizard said:

    @Lorne Kates said:

    And who was the first person to post under the morbiuswilters account? You #@$% guessed it...Morbs!
     

    Wait....Morbs is actually a person?????  That changes everything (but only if true)

    Your mailto censoring only made the fucking word more obvious. I honestly didn't see it in the original post. If you hadn't had quoted it I wouldn't have even known. Even if you quoted it verbatim I probably still wouldn't have seen it!

    I'm not sure about swearing. In one group of my friends I'm considered the swearer, in another group I'm considered the non-swearer.



  • I accidentally made my dude in Elder Scrolls Online a Drurowin cosplayer



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I accidentally made my dude in Elder Scrolls Online a Drurowin cosplayer

    So how is it compared to the beta?



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    So how is it compared to the beta?

    I'm kind of digging it but I don't know if that's because I genuinely LIKE it, or because I already plonked down $60.

    It's different enough from other MMOs that I'm glad I tried it though, they actually put some new thinking into the genre and I appreciate that. That said, you only really notice it's an MMO in the typical way: when you're trying to harvest 10 Blah Seeds and "Vegeta Goku 1998" keeps griefing you. (They put in an option to hide player names, thank God.)

    This goes back to every complaint I ever had about MMOs, back to the first one I ever tried, Ultima Online, and that gem of humanity who typed "LOL U KILLED BAMBI" after looting a deer. Cheers to you, Ultimate Online idiot, you lowered my respect for all gamers to the appropriate level early-on.

    Anyway, I've been playing it like a single-player game and ignoring the bullshit as best as I can. The two guys I've grouped with so far (it has some bosses that are pretty tough to solo) have been pretty ok. Gee, an Elder Scrolls game that plays well if you forget it's a multiplayer game? It's almost as if... almost as if they should have made a single-player game in the first fucking place!

    Oh: they fixed archery from the beta. It's no longer fucking useless. And they fucked up the "intro island" concept, by letting you skip the intro island if you want. If you skip the island:
    1) People on the mainland keep referring to stuff you did but didn't actually do
    2) The Prophet speaks a couple lines in someone else's fucking voice

    Looks guys, if you've done all the voicework and can't bring the actors back in, you're fucking COMMITTED to the feature. Even if beta testers don't like it, ship that shit. The alternative is much worse. Idiots.

    (Thief also had a bunch of last-minute rewrites that turned the story into idiocy, I wonder if that's an industry trend now. It's not like games were ever well-written to start with, and last-minute changes just make everything much worse.)

    I like Razum-Dar.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @dkf said:
    @Maciejasjmj said:
    We only invented the concentration camps.
    I'm sorry, but that was the British.

    And yet the Irish still darken humanity's door. shakes head Pikers..



    They invented it for the Boers.

    Actually, when you consider it, the Boer war is probably one of the very very few successful counter-insurgency campaigns in modern history. I wonder why it doesn't get talked about more often?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Snooder said:

    I wonder why it doesn't get talked about more often?
    Because it was absolutely brutal. Most modern countries are too soft to do what it takes to stop that sort of thing in that way.

    The real way to win wars is to prove to the other side that you're the bigger bastard by far.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @dkf said:

    @Snooder said:
    I wonder why it doesn't get talked about more often?
    Because it was absolutely brutal. Most modern countries are too soft to do what it takes to stop that sort of thing in that way.

    The real way to win wars is to prove to the other side that you're the bigger bastard by far.

     

    hehehe. I'm pretending this thread is still about the OP, which makes this is both the most hugest of all over-reactions,  and 100% perfectly apt.

     



  • @dkf said:

    Because it was absolutely brutal. Most modern countries are too soft to do what it takes to stop that sort of thing in that way.

    Yes.

    @dkf said:

    The real way to win wars is to prove to the other side that you're the bigger bastard by far.

    More precisely, it's to make your enemy realize that compliance is preferable to continue to fighting. Sometimes that involves killing them all.



  • @dkf said:

    @Snooder said:
    I wonder why it doesn't get talked about more often?
    Because it was absolutely brutal. Most modern countries are too soft to do what it takes to stop that sort of thing in that way.

    The real way to win wars is to prove to the other side that you're the bigger bastard by far.



    Well sure, but compare it to the counter-insurgency effort in Spain during the Napoleonic Wars. Nobody accuses the French of being pansies, but they sucked balls at it and they still get reviled as horrible horrible people who did bad things. While the Brits got away with some heinous ass bullshit and a hundred years later, anyone who isn't Afrikaaner probably thinks the Boers had it coming.

    More importantly, it worked. Just being a stone bastard with zero compassion doesn't always work, and usually just breeds more die-hard matyrs with nothing to lose.

     



  • @Snooder said:

    Well sure, but compare it to the counter-insurgency effort in Spain during the Napoleonic Wars. Nobody accuses the French of being pansies, but they sucked balls at it and they still get reviled as horrible horrible people who did bad things. While the Brits got away with some heinous ass bullshit and a hundred years later, anyone who isn't Afrikaaner probably thinks the Boers had it coming.

    I dunno.. I've heard lots of people condemn the Boer Wars and the British Empire in-general. Hell, you still have people bitching about Roman counter-insurgency operations that happened in the Levant two thousands years ago..



  • @Snooder said:

    They invented it for the Boers.

    Also, do you people not understand jokes? This is why there are no nerd stand-up comedians, because the audience has some kind of mental condition where they take every single thing they hear literally.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    This is why there are no nerd stand-up comedians, because the audience has some kind of mental condition where they take every single thing they hear literally.
    But that's a complete fabrication! I've been known to draw analogies and even use a few similes and metaphors.



  • @dkf said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    This is why there are no nerd stand-up comedians, because the audience has some kind of mental condition where they take every single thing they hear literally.
    But that's a complete fabrication! I've been known to draw analogies and even use a few similes and metaphors.

    I'd be interested in seeing some of these anal orgy drawings of yours. What's your DA?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    They invented it for the Boers.

    Also, do you people not understand jokes? This is why there are no nerd stand-up comedians, because the audience has some kind of mental condition where they take every single thing they hear literally.



    No, I got it. Chuckled mildly, but there's nothing there to be said except "heh, Brits hate the Irish, haha." On the other hand, the Boer Wars is a slightly interesting piece of history that doesn't get as much discussion as it ought to. This is called transitioning the conversation from a dead end to a possibly more fruitful topic. Sure, I could sit there and beat a dead horse, but then who would your mother find to co-star with her in her necro-bestiality porn? I mean, your dad was cremated already, right?



  • @Snooder said:

    Chuckled mildly, but there's nothing there to be said except "heh, Brits every decent human being on Earth, ever hate the Irish, haha."

    FTFY.

    @Snooder said:

    On the other hand, the Boer Wars is a slightly interesting piece of history that doesn't get as much discussion as it ought to.

    Yeah, a lot of African history seems to get skimped on, probably because of white guilt. I'm particularly fond of the Rhodesian Bush War: white supremacists versus psychopathic Marxist African guerrillas? Any way they can both lose? (Although if you'll look at modern-day Rhodesia, I think you'll find they both did.)

    @Snooder said:

    Sure, I could sit there and beat a dead horse, but then who would your mother find to co-star with her in her necro-bestiality porn?

    But beaten horses are her speciality!

    @Snooder said:

    I mean, your dad was cremated already, right?

    I lost touch with him when he became a homeless alcoholic.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Thief also had a bunch of last-minute rewrites that turned the story into idiocy
     

    Not to mention they completely broke the interface making it compatible with consoles.  I wonder if they're going to shit out the new Thief ASAP or if they'll take a bit more time with it?



  • @mahlerrd said:

    Not to mention they completely broke the interface making it compatible with consoles.

    Whaaaa...?

    No, the interface didn't change one iota since beta. Which is a shame, because I was hoping they'd add controller support.

    The fact that it *doesn't* have controller support when it's like a month away from being ported to a game console is fucking ridiculous. Because it means internally they're testing a fucking version with controller support, they just refuse to ship it to us.

    EDIT OH WAIT YOU MEANT THIEF OH SHIT OH WELL SORRY OMG OMG



  • @Snooder said:

    Well sure, but compare it to the counter-insurgency effort in Spain during the Napoleonic Wars. Nobody accuses the French of being pansies, but they sucked balls at it and they still get reviled as horrible horrible people who did bad things.

    Because they sucked balls at it. The British didn't. History is written by the victors, not the dead.

    @Snooder said:

    Just being a stone bastard with zero compassion doesn't always work, and usually just breeds more die-hard matyrs with nothing to lose.

    Genghis Khan didn't have any problems with martyrs. Maybe he was doing something right that the USA isn't.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    Because it means internally they're testing a fucking version with controller support, they just refuse to ship it to us.
    Testing never gave the impression of being a particularly prominent feature of Elder Scrolls games in the past. They were noted for having all sorts of horrible bugs at release, some of which would never be fixed (except by community patches, sometimes, if the problem isn't too deep inside).

    Maybe this time it will be different…



  • @blakeyrat said:

    EDIT OH WAIT YOU MEANT THIEF OH SHIT OH WELL SORRY OMG OMG
     

    NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL



  • @The_Assimilator said:

    Genghis Khan didn't have any problems with martyrs. Maybe he was doing something right that the USA isn't.

    Well, he wasn't afraid of Russians and residents of Crimea, I can tell you that much.

    Of course, his empire also killed tens of millions of people. And that was centuries ago, back when that meant something. (He couldn't just lock them in a room connected to the tailpipe of his Volkswagen, Germany. Or starve them to death from hilariously-inept agricultural mismanagement, China. Or bore them to mass suicide, Michael Bay.)



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Yeah, a lot of African history seems to get skimped on, probably because of white guilt. I'm particularly fond of the Rhodesian Bush War: white supremacists versus psychopathic Marxist African guerrillas? Any way they can both lose? (Although if you'll look at modern-day Rhodesia, I think you'll find they both did.)
     

    Ah well, it's just a matter of time before African history gets the rosy-eyed gaze of history. I was recently reading about the history of Ethiopia and it struck me that it would make for a very fascinating mini-series. I mean shit, if you can't turn "hot-ass bitch queen fucking the king who already had a hundred wives" into a moneymaker, you don't deserve to be a producer. Wouldn't put it on HBO though. That's too classy, I'd shop it to Starz or something and really step up the T&A.



  • @dhromed said:

    NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL

    GUILD WARS 2 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE KHAJIITS! CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Also, do you people not understand jokes? This is why there are no nerd stand-up comedians, because the audience has some kind of mental condition where they take every single thing they hear literally.

    @mahlerrd said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    Thief also had a bunch of last-minute rewrites that turned the story into idiocy
     

    Not to mention they completely broke the interface making it compatible with consoles.  I wonder if they're going to shit out the new Thief ASAP or if they'll take a bit more time with it?

    Thieves don't get jokes either because they take everything literally.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @dhromed said:
    NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL

    GUILD WARS 2 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE KHAJIITS! CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!

     

    I DON'T PLAY EITHER OF THESE GODDAMN GAMES AND THEY BOTH HAVE CATPEOPLE OR WHATEVER

    BUT DO WE AGREE THAT GW2 IS UGLY?



  • @dhromed said:

    BUT DO WE AGREE THAT GW2 IS UGLY?

    I would say "dated" and not "ugly". But yes.

    The problem is there's about like 4-5 people I know on Twitter, on here, and on Steam, and all of these people use DIFFERENT USERNAMES AND AVATARS FOR EVERY SERVICE so they're impossible to tell apart, and I thought you were the guy who's posting Guild Wars 2 screenshots to Steam every freakin' day. But I guess you're not. So now I don't know which one of these Steam people you are, but at least I have a decent idea of who you are on Twitter until I forget in 3 days.

    Oh and BTW, WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF YOU DON'T USE THE SAME NAME ON EVERY SITE!!!!! GRHASHA~USAYDAYG!



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I thought you were the guy who's posting Guild Wars 2 screenshots to Steam every freakin' day.
     

    I use the same name on steam.

    But not on twatter.

     

    ;) ;)



  • @blakeyrat said:

    WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF YOU DON'T USE THE SAME NAME ON EVERY SITE!!!!!

    Alright mecha-whatever.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @dhromed said:
    BUT DO WE AGREE THAT GW2 IS UGLY?

    I would say "dated" and not "ugly". But yes.

    The problem is there's about like 4-5 people I know on Twitter, on here, and on Steam, and all of these people use DIFFERENT USERNAMES AND AVATARS FOR EVERY SERVICE so they're impossible to tell apart, and I thought you were the guy who's posting Guild Wars 2 screenshots to Steam every freakin' day. But I guess you're not. So now I don't know which one of these Steam people you are, but at least I have a decent idea of who you are on Twitter until I forget in 3 days.

    Oh and BTW, WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF YOU DON'T USE THE SAME NAME ON EVERY SITE!!!!! GRHASHA~USAYDAYG!

    WHO IS THIS Blakeyrat GUY I ONLY KNOW blakeyrat


  • WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE YOUR REAL NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER!!!



  • I take it all back.

    45 minutes of attempting to play ESO's PVP mode and I am now a fervent hater of the game and everything to do with it, especially its community. Amazingly awful experience. Spectacularly awful. Unbelievably awful. It took me over 15 minutes just to figure out how to get back to the *decent* part of the game.

    But the biggest problem: the community is 100% toxic. Remember before Fallout 3 came out, and all those people were talking shit about it because the developers had the audacity to make it impossible to brutally murder 5-year-olds? Remember those lovely gems of humankind? I think every one of those assholes is now playing ESO PVP. And they've gotten worse. Maybe they've all migrated over from the horrible toxic DOTA2 community. God knows where these people come from. But once they start taking over a game, it's only a matter of days before all the non-them people leave.

    Gruh. I could write an essay just on how terrible that experience was. Maybe I will.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    Gruh. I could write an essay just on how terrible that experience was. Maybe I will.
    I've given up on PvP entirely. I want to have fun when I play games, not deal with griefing asses.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    But the biggest problem: the community is 100% toxic. Remember before Fallout 3 came out, and all those people were talking shit about it because the developers had the audacity to make it impossible to brutally murder 5-year-olds? Remember those lovely gems of humankind? I think every one of those assholes is now playing ESO PVP. And they've gotten worse. Maybe they've all migrated over from the horrible toxic DOTA2 community. God knows where these people come from. But once they start taking over a game, it's only a matter of days before all the non-them people leave.


    Heh, you think the DOTA2 community is bad? Back in the day the DOTA community was a thousand times worse. As was the CS community, and the community for just about every online multiplayer shooter.

    Although I'll admit that ESO at least probably doesn't have the "huehue" problem.

     



  • The funny thing is the aholes were complaining in one breath that not enough people in our faction play PVP to be successful, and in the next breath were berating me for having the audacity to ask how to do something the game doesn't provide enough help on. I'm guessing the gears in their brain never started chugging to maybe start to come to the conclusion that the two things were related somehow...


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Snooder said:

    ... the DOTA community was a thousand times worse. As was the CS community ...
     

    Hey, we're not that bad.

    {overhead in the background is someone telling a new poster about eating a purple dildo, whilst on the other side jokes about Nazis fly like pigs over the frozen plains of Hell}

    Well, okay, but stil... I... uh... =(



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Snooder said:

    ... the DOTA community was a thousand times worse. As was the CS community ...
     

    Hey, we're not that bad.

    {overhead in the background is someone telling a new poster about eating a purple dildo, whilst on the other side jokes about Nazis fly like pigs over the frozen plains of Hell}

    Well, okay, but stil... I... uh... =(

    CS

    • Community Server
    • Counter Strike
    • Customer Service
    • Computer Science
    • Code Segment (x86 register)
    • Czechoslovakia
    • 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS gas)


  • @Buttembly Coder said:

    @Lorne Kates said:

    @Snooder said:

    ... the DOTA community was a thousand times worse. As was the CS community ...
     

    Hey, we're not that bad.

    {overhead in the background is someone telling a new poster about eating a purple dildo, whilst on the other side jokes about Nazis fly like pigs over the frozen plains of Hell}

    Well, okay, but stil... I... uh... =(

    CS

    • Community Server
    • Counter Strike
    • Customer Service
    • Computer Science
    • Code Segment (x86 register)
    • Czechoslovakia
    • 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS gas)


  • @blakeyrat said:

    WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF YOU DON'T USE THE SAME NAME ON EVERY SITE!!!!!
    Huh?  It's only ever accidental (though often convenient) that I ever use the same username from one place to the next.  Personally, I rather like obfuscation. It won't stop google from knowing who I am where, but it may cause others some minor hassle tracking down my alter-egos.



  • @mahlerrd said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    WHAT IS THE POINT OF A USERNAME IF YOU DON'T USE THE SAME NAME ON EVERY SITE!!!!!
    Huh?  It's only ever accidental (though often convenient) that I ever use the same username from one place to the next.  Personally, I rather like obfuscation. It won't stop google from knowing who I am where, but it may cause others some minor hassle tracking down my alter-egos.


    Besides, it makes password reuse safer.



  • @Ben L. said:


    See, this is why you people scare me.

    There's a 15 year old from Sheboygan (or whatever) who has enough fantasies about my poorly-drawn character to photoshop him wearing a bondage muzzle is creepy beyond belief.

    Are there some /authorities/ I can alert?


  • Considered Harmful

    @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:

    See, this is why you people scare me.

    There's a 15 year old from Sheboygan (or whatever) who has enough fantasies about my poorly-drawn character to photoshop him wearing a bondage muzzle is creepy beyond belief.

    Are there some /authorities/ I can alert?

    You people? You people?



  • @joe.edwards said:

    You people? You people?

    I don't know what else is lurking in the dark hearts and minds of the other users here.



  • @drurowin said:

    wearing a bondage muzzle
    That's a loaf of bread.  I think you might be a little too obsessed with bondage muzzles.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @drurowin said:

    wearing a bondage muzzle
    That's a loaf of bread.  I think you might be a little too obsessed with bondage muzzles.

    Sorry if my high-DPI display doesn't make a 64x64 image very clear at my average reading distance. I thought it was a light tan leather bondage muzzle. Upon zooming in, I can indeed see it's a loaf of bondage bread.



  • @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:

    See, this is why you people scare me.

    There's a 15 year old from Sheboygan (or whatever) who has enough fantasies about my poorly-drawn character to photoshop him wearing a bondage muzzle is creepy beyond belief.

    Are there some /authorities/ I can alert?

    Yes, but we're all far worse perverts.



  • @drurowin said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @drurowin said:

    wearing a bondage muzzle
    That's a loaf of bread.  I think you might be a little too obsessed with bondage muzzles.

    Sorry if my high-DPI display doesn't make a 64x64 image very clear at my average reading distance. I thought it was a light tan leather bondage muzzle. Upon zooming in, I can indeed see it's a loaf of bondage bread.
    Bread is already skeevy in Spanish-speaking countries:


     



  • @da Doctah said:

    Bread is already skeevy in Spanish-speaking countries:
    Grupo Bimbo actually dominates the USA bread market too. It's why I'm waiting for the eventual famine and riots in America - you guys have forgotten to produce ANYTHING... No bread, no meat; I'm surprised there are even still dairies in the US.



  • @drurowin said:

    @da Doctah said:
    Bread is already skeevy in Spanish-speaking countries:
    Grupo Bimbo actually dominates the USA bread market too. It's why I'm waiting for the eventual famine and riots in America - you guys have forgotten to produce ANYTHING... No bread, no meat; I'm surprised there are even still dairies in the US.

    What state do you live in? The one south of Texas?



  • @Ben L. said:

    @drurowin said:
    @da Doctah said:
    Bread is already skeevy in Spanish-speaking countries:
    Grupo Bimbo actually dominates the USA bread market too. It's why I'm waiting for the eventual famine and riots in America - you guys have forgotten to produce ANYTHING... No bread, no meat; I'm surprised there are even still dairies in the US.

    What state do you live in? The one south of Texas?

    The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Most of Ireland.



  • @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:
    @drurowin said:
    @da Doctah said:
    Bread is already skeevy in Spanish-speaking countries:
    Grupo Bimbo actually dominates the USA bread market too. It's why I'm waiting for the eventual famine and riots in America - you guys have forgotten to produce ANYTHING... No bread, no meat; I'm surprised there are even still dairies in the US.

    What state do you live in? The one south of Texas?

    The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Most of Ireland.

    But you shop in American supermarkets? That must cost a lot of money on gasoline petrol, old chap.


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