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Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

Last post 11-10-2012 9:30 PM by joe.edwards. 117 replies.
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  • 11-05-2012 3:41 AM In reply to

    • Zecc
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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Sutherlands:
    Kittemon:
    I can't tell whether or not this is meant to be ironic, and assuming so, at which one of us it's directed.
    What do you think ironic means?...
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.

    The invisible shoulder aliens told me to answer the rhetorical question.

    If mixed metaphors were illegal, I'd be having an indigestion.
    typeof NaN == 'number'
    var ò_ó, ಠ⁔ಠ, ᄒᆺᄒ, ᅙᅳᅙ, ᖛᨓᖜ, ꖴᅩꖴ, ఠᨋఠ; // Naming your variables is serious business
  • 11-05-2012 2:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

     

    flabdablet:
    What's your take on this crowd, whose basic approach seems to be to identify and remedy the specific processing deficiencies underlying the dyslexia, as opposed to searching endlessly for workarounds?


    A more structured (and potentially quicker and more efficient) route to arrive at the same destination, at a guess.

    I didn't do any of the psychology stuff, I was on the receiving end of techniques used to shape and tweak my teaching delivery according to the audience. It sounds like that crowd have stopped their workaround searches and started to map specific techniques as solutions to recognisable deficiencies, which is a natural evolution in process maturity.

    We tried something similar introducing a new "thinking skills" technique in which students were invited to examine an image (usually a line-art picture) and think laterally about what they saw - what facts could they deduce and what clued them into that. I wasn't there long enough to see a measurable difference, but I did notice a slight change in attitude towards problems: some would back away and think more about the issue at hand rather than plough in and complain about how difficult it was when they experienced failure. Providing new techniques seemed to have armed students with fresh ammunition and gave them more confidence in their approach and they were less disheartened when the techniques didn't work.

    I'm theorising that the ArrowSmith program follows a similar approach: categorise the problem to select a more suitable technique. The site mentions proof of effectiveness - I'd be interested in seeing their metrics, both success and failure rates.

  • 11-06-2012 9:56 PM In reply to

    • Kittemon
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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Sutherlands:
    Kittemon:
    I can't tell whether or not this is meant to be ironic, and assuming so, at which one of us it's directed.
    What do you think ironic means?...
    1. Employing or exemplifying irony.
    2. I asked you first, albeit in a roundabout manner.
    3. Nevermind, I'll rephrase: are you being a dumbass or a smartass? I've not read enough of your previous posts to judge appropriately.
    Zecc:
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.
    You lose the wager.
  • 11-07-2012 4:21 AM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Kittemon:
    Sutherlands:
    Kittemon:
    I can't tell whether or not this is meant to be ironic, and assuming so, at which one of us it's directed.
    What do you think ironic means?...

    1. Employing or exemplifying irony.
    2. I asked you first, albeit in a roundabout manner.
    3. Nevermind, I'll rephrase: are you being a dumbass or a smartass? I've not read enough of your previous posts to judge appropriately.

    Zecc:
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.
    You lose the wager.
    Not before you declare what you understand by "sarcastic" .

     

    If mixed metaphors were illegal, I'd be having an indigestion.
    typeof NaN == 'number'
    var ò_ó, ಠ⁔ಠ, ᄒᆺᄒ, ᅙᅳᅙ, ᖛᨓᖜ, ꖴᅩꖴ, ఠᨋఠ; // Naming your variables is serious business
  • 11-07-2012 5:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    This whole Kittemon ordeal reminds me of a tweet sent by "Weird" Al Yankovic, who said that a friend once told him he didn't understand irony, which was ironic because they were eating ice cream at the time.
  • 11-07-2012 6:17 AM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    toon:
    a friend once told him he didn't understand irony, which was ironic because they were eating ice cream at the time.
     

    That's funny because it's ironic. If the ice cream eating didn't actually happen, it's also sarcastic. Multi-layerd joke! Bonus!


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  • 11-07-2012 8:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Kittemon:
    are you being a dumbass or a smartass?
    Why not both?

    “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types -- the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.”

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  • 11-07-2012 6:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Zecc:
    Kittemon:
    Zecc:
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.
    You lose the wager.
    Not before you declare what you understand by "sarcastic" .

    Something different than ironic, obviously.

    Loosely speaking, for the purposes of this increasingly silly conversation, sarcasm ⊂ irony. Discuss this concept with your shoulder alien.

  • 11-08-2012 11:18 AM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

     

    Kittemon:
    Zecc:
    Kittemon:
    Zecc:
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.
    You lose the wager.
    Not before you declare what you understand by "sarcastic" .

    Something different than ironic, obviously.

    Loosely speaking, for the purposes of this increasingly silly conversation, sarcasm ⊂ irony. Discuss this concept with your shoulder alien.

     

    a loose translation being "Shit, I have no idea what the words I used meant and have been called out on it, quickly! let's backpedal, beat around the bush and hope somebody else jumps in talking about something else!"

     

  • 11-08-2012 12:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Kittemon:
    Sutherlands:
    Kittemon:
    I can't tell whether or not this is meant to be ironic, and assuming so, at which one of us it's directed.
    What do you think ironic means?...
    1. Employing or exemplifying irony.
    2. I asked you first, albeit in a roundabout manner.
    3. Nevermind, I'll rephrase: are you being a dumbass or a smartass? I've not read enough of your previous posts to judge appropriately.

    Zecc:
    The same as sarcastic, I wager.
    You lose the wager.
    Well, even though you don't understand irony, I was being serious in what I said.  Which makes me neither of your follow-up questions.

    dhromed:

    toon:
    a friend once told him he didn't understand irony, which was ironic because they were eating ice cream at the time.

    That's funny because it's ironic. If the ice cream eating didn't actually happen, it's also sarcastic. Multi-layerd joke! Bonus!

    That's not irony >.>

  • 11-08-2012 2:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    BC_Programmer:
    a loose translation being "Shit, I have no idea what the words I used meant and have been called out on it, quickly! let's backpedal, beat around the bush and hope somebody else jumps in talking about something else!"

    A precise translation being: "If I provide a definition, someone will say it's wrong, even if it isn't wrong. If I copy a definition from a dictionary, someone will say that I don't understand the definition, while someone else will deride my choice of dictionary brand as being considered non-authoritative and generally looked down upon on account of its sloppy definitions, etc."

    I wasn't in the mood to delve into that bit of nonsense; naturally, it occurred anyway.

  • 11-08-2012 3:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Sutherlands:
    Kittemon:
    I can't tell whether or not this is meant to be ironic
    Well, even though you don't understand irony,
    What? I was trying to figure out what meaning you intended to convey, because it sounded a lot like a blakeyrant, but then again you might have meant it seriously. I didn't claim that I thought it was ironic.
    Sutherlands:
    I was being serious in what I said.
    "No, this is not meant to be ironic."
    Sutherlands:
    Which makes me neither of your follow-up questions.
    That's still open for debate, given that what you wrote wasn't actually a counterpoint to what I wrote.
  • 11-08-2012 3:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

      <-  I couldn't make my shit work, so here's a Godzilla head.
  • 11-10-2012 1:19 PM In reply to

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  • 11-10-2012 1:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    {
    joe.edwards:
    Zecc:

    Severity One:

    joe.edwards:
    I knew I hated Ruby as soon as I saw you could put the conditional test AFTER the statement.
    You're not a big fan of Perl either, I suppose.

    Perl has the 'unless' statement. You can write an entire block of statements and at the very end write 'unless ( expr )'.

     

    Saying you dislike Perl because of it allowing you to put conditionals at the end of statements is like saying you disliked Osama bin Laden because he had his hair unkempt.

     

    Or drawing a simile between a programming language and a terrorist.

     

    Yes, I would probably hate Perl as well. Write-only language and all that.

    Blakey's workflow is to watch the debugger and see what happens. I read code like a narrative, running statement by statement in my head and updating state accordingly. If I read ten (or worse, 50+) lines of code and at the very end I see " } unless( foo )" I feel like the code just shouted "HA! TRICKED YOU!" It's like finding out the last 10 chapters of a novel were really just a bad dream sequence. It just totally fucks my mental interpreter. Even with a single line, I'll have to read it and then see the condition and undo the changes to the registers in my mental VM. I'm capable of doing this, but it basically feels like stubbing my toe.

    If the language allows it, I know someone will use it, and then I'll end up having to support it. When I write code, my number one priority is making sure it won't be painful for me to go back and maintain, fix, update, or debug. This "feature" goes against the spirit of that goal.

    } if false

    HA! PSYCHE!

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  • 11-10-2012 2:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    spamcourt:
    You forgot: /* Too bad this isn't working :( */ .visibleonhover_1234 { visibility: hidden; } .makeitvisible_1234 .visibleonhover_1234 { visibility: visible; }

     

    If mixed metaphors were illegal, I'd be having an indigestion.
    typeof NaN == 'number'
    var ò_ó, ಠ⁔ಠ, ᄒᆺᄒ, ᅙᅳᅙ, ᖛᨓᖜ, ꖴᅩꖴ, ఠᨋఠ; // Naming your variables is serious business
  • 11-10-2012 3:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

     SMBC is good.


    In complex analysis, a meromorphic function on an open subset D of the complex plane is a function that is holomorphic on all D except a set of isolated points

  • 11-10-2012 9:30 PM In reply to

    Re: Brain the size of a planet, and working with MC Hammer

    Ben L.:
    {
    It was all a nightmare:
    } if false

    HA! PSYCHE!

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    Signatures are stupid.
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