rc_pinchey:

one person replies saying every photo posted in the thread was brilliant

One person on a new thread. It took me a week to get my first Swampie here. By now I must have 10 or 12 true Swampies free from geekdom forever and ever. Maybe even longer.

SpectateSwamp:

rc_pinchey:

one person replies saying every photo posted in the thread was brilliant

One person on a new thread. It took me a week to get my first Swampie here. By now I must have 10 or 12 true Swampies free from geekdom forever and ever. Maybe even longer.

 

In this place we like to call the "real world", things aren't true just because they happen in your head or because you say so.  You don't have any swampies here, just people who mocked you for sport. 

Let's pretend you have 10 or 12 swampies, okay?  That's all?  After 9 years?

Wow, so by the time you're six feet underground, you should have 20 or 30 swampies.  Great.  You're really making a difference in the world and making good use of your remaining time on the planet.  Idiot.

CodeSimian:

Wow, so by the time you're six feet underground, you should have 20 or 30 swampies.

Do you reckon that would work the other way round - if he gets 20 or 30 swampies he will end up six feet under?

 

rc_pinchey:

Here's a question- you wrote SSDS in Visual Basic, right? So will you admit that the people who created Visual Basic are better programmers than you?

Oh they were smart alright. Very very smart. But they didn't finish the JOB. I did.

 

SpectateSwamp:

free from geekdom forever and ever. Maybe even longer.

Spectate Marsh must think he's so darn funny. Longer than forever. I'll pretend to laugh. My fellow marshies won't be so nice.

rc_pinchey:

Here's a question- you wrote SSDS in Visual Basic, right? So will you admit that the people who created Visual Basic are better programmers than you?

They were smart very very smart. But they didn't finish the JOB. I did.

So you've quoted a single line of what I've written, out of context, and then continued to respond as if I'd made an entirely different statement? Two can play at that game.

 

SpectateSwamp:

It took me a week to get my first Swampie here.

SpectateSwamp:

Maybe even longer.

It's big of you to admit that you're so unpopular and lacking in influence.

I was also surprised that you responded to my question about how many catastrophic failures SSDS had:

SpectateSwamp:

By now I must have 10 or 12

But the biggest shock was when you finally came clean and admitted how many people had ever used and liked SSDS...

SpectateSwamp:

One person

 

Truly enlightening stuff, please continue. 

SpectateSwamp:

rc_pinchey:

Here's a question- you wrote SSDS in Visual Basic, right? So will you admit that the people who created Visual Basic are better programmers than you?

Oh they were smart alright. Very very smart. But they didn't finish the JOB. I did.

 Correction, you didn't do any job. You did a hobby. When I can buy SSDS off the shelves of Best Buy, then I might think about giving you a little credit. You wouldn't have been able do a darn thing without the people before you. You're a disgrace to this community.

SpectateSwamp:

Oh they were smart alright. Very very smart. But they didn't finish the JOB. I did.

What job did you finish? Please don't say you mean SSDS is the pinacle of software development, also avoid saying jam it as well (ever).

SpectateSwamp:

rc_pinchey:

Here's a question- you wrote SSDS in Visual Basic, right? So will you admit that the people who created Visual Basic are better programmers than you?

They were smart very very smart. But they didn't finish the JOB. I did.

 

You couldn't have written SSDS without them. They DID create Visual Basic without you. So I ask again, will you admit that the people who created Visual Basic are better programmers than you?

pitchingchris:

Spectate Marsh must think he's so darn funny. Longer than forever. I'll pretend to laugh. My fellow marshies won't be so nice.

You got a project in the $100,000 mashup challenge? What is it? I'll vote for you and make a comment just to help out. I'm still a member. I think?

spenk:

What job did you finish? Please don't say you mean SSDS is the pinacle of software development, also avoid saying jam it as well (ever).

Oh Swamp Search isn't done yet. That's for the Swampies. Simple code except for the linewrap and hi-lite logic which has flowcharts. They can easily do it. I'll help them. The Swampies would be the ones laughing at the $100,000 mashup challenge. It would be an easy whip in front of a live audience. Easy Whip

SpectateSwamp:

pitchingchris:

Spectate Marsh must think he's so darn funny. Longer than forever. I'll pretend to laugh. My fellow marshies won't be so nice.

You got a project in the $100,000 mashup challenge? What is it? I'll vote for you and make a comment just to help out. I'm still a member. I think?

 

Spectate, this is getting out of hand.  Normally your non sequiturs are bit more clever than that.  I am seriously worried for your well-being, what with you spending all of your free time videoing leaves and spamming forums, especially at your age.

Thoughtful guy that I am, I took the liberty of entering your details into The Death Clock (thanks for telling us your birthday, BTW).  I estimated your BMI at 28, hope you don't mind.

The results are...well, less than encouraging.  Let's just say, if I were you I would spend more time shooting trapline video, more time shooting up spruce hens and much less time shooting your mouth off in forums:

 

So, whenever you feel like wasting more of everyone's precious time for kicks?  Stroll on over to this site, and remind yourself of what's really important in life:

http://www.deathclock.com/dw.cfm?Day=26&Month=7&Year=1946&Sex=Male&Mode=Normal&bmi=28&smoker=0

 

SpectateSwamp:

I wrote a Desktop Search Engine.

No you didn't.  You wrote a disasterously bad application that does only incredibly simplistic things, but does them with overly complex code.

What have you done that makes the Geek World tremble.

Nothing, just like you.  The difference between us is that you have a tenuous grip on reality which restricts you from coming to terms with this fact.

I must tell you I loved it when I put the line numbers back in. I knew the Geeks would go wild. Pure wild.

Good programmers take pleasure in creating good code.  You delight in intentionally muddling yours.

My major "paradim shifts" came when the users loved what I was doing.

Nothing you have ever done, nor ever will do, even remotely approaches a paradigm shift.  That you think such an abject falsehood is true is just another sad conceit, manufactured by a sick mind to compensate for the harsh juxtaposition of a life of mediocrity against your inflated self-worth.  Users cannot have loved your "paradigm shifts" because they do not exist -- the paradigm shifts or the users.

That's where the real fun in "Data processing" resides.

 

The current thought on data processing -- indeed, the true paradigm shift -- is that user intervention should not be necessary.  Your abortion of a program only further taxes the users' -- were you to have any -- limited time, both by being blatantly cryptic and by warping standard practices into a foul abomination based solely on the nonsensical ruminations of an idiot.

There have been numerous times If they weren't singing songs about me, they were definitely humming a tune.

We have tried logic.  We have tried reason.  Sarcasm, gentle admonishments, and outright hostility, too, have all failed.  You see yourself as Galileo, valiantly standing against a world which wrongly persecutes you.  But, in fact, you have far more in common with the church that persecuted him.  You hold this belief that you have created something worthwhile, let alone earth-shattering, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I could tell you some stories because I have nearly 40 years time to collect some. Your stores are dull and boring. Prove to me otherwise.

 

Stories don't come from living a lifetime.  There are a great many people far younger than you or I who no doubt have stories that put ours to shame.  What you consider to be a good story tends to be equal parts incoherent and moronic.  The truth is that you have lived a life where the only happenings of interest were in your own head.

In regards to my stories?  I cannot prove something so terribly subjective to you.  Hell, I can't even prove an objective fact to you.  Your world view goes well past solipsism to outright psychosis.  You live in a deluded fantasy wherein anything and everything you do is of value.  The truth is that nothing you do is of any value to anyone but you.

You are a sick man, Doug Pederson.  Part of me regrets mocking you, because you lack the faculties to adequate defend yourself; your mind is grotesque and terrible.  But another, larger part of me is just fucking tired of you.  I only continue to post in your threads because I derive a perverse pleasure in laughing at you, your life reaffirms the quality of my own, and the inherent schadenfreude generates a comradery this board lacks elsewhere.

I can't profess to be a professional, but I strongly encourage you to seek psychiatric help.  Unfortunately, I am not deluded enough to expect you to act upon, or even understand, the things I've written here, and that makes me surprisingly sad.  At heart, I suppose I'm not a cruel man.  It depresses me to consider that you likely have family members who must face your madness on a continued basis.  I imagine myself in their situation, unable to reach you, to get you the help you so clearly need, and I condole with them.

ahem....

ATTENTION SpectateSwamp. SpectateSpam. YellowHead. Doug. Stoned An. Yes, you!

Let's say I have a dog, the most awesome dog in the world. I enter my DOG in a HORSE show. Will it win? NO. And not because the show's coordinators hate me or don't think my dog's perfect. My dog won't win BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HORSE. If I want my dog to have a fair chance at winning, I should enter it in a DOG SHOW.

Now say I write a wonderful desktop search application. I enter it in NetSquared's WEB APP contest. Will it win? NO. Not because they hate me or don't think my program's any good. No, it's simply because IT'S NOT A WEB APP. If I want my program to be judged on merit, I should enter it in a desktop search-utility contest.

To relate these hypothetical examples to YOU, SpectateSwamp. You write desktop search program. SSDS. You enter it in WEB APP CONTEST. It no win because it NOT WEB APP. Now shut up and either enter it in a contest against similar programs, or make an actual web app to enter in NetSquared.

...also, if you were to port SSDS to C, it would probably do quite well in the IOCCC.

SpectateSwamp:

Oh Swamp Search isn't done yet. That's for the Swampies.

There are no swampies, there never will be swampies. When people offered to help you couldn't even be arsed with the minimal effort required to open a sourceforge project and upload your code. If you had wanted people there was interest for a while - people have actually submitted bug reports for gods sake but you ignored them. 

If you want people to work on the code, if you want to claim open source why not upload the project to sourceforge and let people collaborate on it?

SpectateSwamp:

Simple code except for the linewrap and hi-lite logic which has flowcharts.

The code isn't simple - it is overly complicated and far to messy. Line numbers (or pretend line numbers) and Gosub have been superseded by sub-routines and functions. The flow charts aren't useful to anyone who doesn't already have a deep understanding of the SSDS source either.

SpectateSwamp:

They can easily do it. I'll help them.

THis is not easy code to maintain, you have proved your inability or lack of desire to help by failing to post code to sourceforge so people can contribute. You simply ignore this topic and prattle on about stones and clouds and god knows what else.

SpectateSwamp:

The Swampies would be the ones laughing at the $100,000 mashup challenge.

There are no swampies and you were never going to win the challenge due to the fact you didn't meet the rules. There is no conspiracy or great plan to prevent SSDS getting attention - the software is only suitable and usable by you. It didn't meet the rules, it isn't a mashup

.

SpectateSwamp:

It would be an easy whip in front of a live audience. Easy Whip

THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE YOU RETARD.

SpectateSwamp:

I wrote a Desktop Search Engine. What have you done that makes the Geek World tremble.

You're dodging the question - I wasn't asking about applications or society at large, I was asking about programming. Leonardo da Vinci isn't remembered because he painted that one famous painting thing where he didn't quite get the smile right no matter how he tried - he's remembered because he was a freaking genius and made a lot of fascinating and beautiful paintings and inventions and stuff. He had the technique to create multiple great masterpieces. He had the energy to do that. Do you, or are you resting on your laurels? How exactly will you react when the world moves away from Desktop Search and no one is interested of searching the way your amazing application does searching? It could happen! Have you put any thought on that at all? A koan to ponder: "Obsolescence isn't an accident, it's an art form".

Anyway... I can't say that I've made anything significant - but I've actually written something that demonstrably had an audience. I wrote a hack that half of the ordinary every-day Linux geeks seemed to use at one point. Luckily, the hack is long obsolete and we have more flexible tools now, for the exact same purpose - you can't stop the progress. I don't think it made the "Geek World" tremble, but at least it made it a little bit more fun place to live. Fun is good, right?

SpectateSwamp:

I must tell you I loved it when I put the line numbers back in. I knew the Geeks would go wild. Pure wild. My major "paradim shifts" came when the users loved what I was doing.

Ah, so you haven't yet had any such revelations in code level. In fact, you're fighting against such revelations by fleeing from anything that seems hard or new - as I suspected.

But please elaborate: What, exactly, in emulating the line numbers made people love your code? Please don't tell me how they loved your application; I'm talking about the code here.

You see, everyone knows that as long as the interface is flashy enough you can sell people anything; if they specifically look at the code, it's harder and you have to actually write good code. I'm actually pretty embarrassed by the xmms-infopipe code, it was the first program I wrote that uses pipes and I basically released it in "it works for me, ship it!" state. I'm so glad people have fixed some of the most embarrassing issues the code had. (But that's another, higher level revelation - working with others makes your code better.)

joemck:

To relate these hypothetical examples to YOU, SpectateSwamp. You write desktop search program. SSDS. You enter it in WEB APP CONTEST. It no win because it NOT WEB APP. Now shut up and either enter it in a contest against similar programs, or make an actual web app to enter in NetSquared.

The WEB app didn't have to exist. I was hoping to get assistance making SSDS WebWise. At the MashUp I would be demonstrating what the software could currently do: Big screens, Aliens, Dino Mummies and Flashy Swampies. We'd have won.

SpectateSwamp:

joemck:

To relate these hypothetical examples to YOU, SpectateSwamp. You write desktop search program. SSDS. You enter it in WEB APP CONTEST. It no win because it NOT WEB APP. Now shut up and either enter it in a contest against similar programs, or make an actual web app to enter in NetSquared.

The WEB app didn't have to exist. I was hoping to get assistance making SSDS WebWise. At the MashUp I would be demonstrating what the software could currently do: Big screens, Aliens, Dino Mummies and Flashy Swampies. We'd have won.

So you entered your dog into a horse show, so you could show off your dog's tricks, hoping that someone would turn your dog into a horse later on.

Dear Mr. Pederson,

My name is Agent Smith and I'm working for the SSS (Super Secret Service - yes President Bush Sr. really was that unimaginative). That you haven't heard of us before should be proof enough of our secrecy.  This post can and will only be read by you, for we have infiltrated this site, and in fact the whole internet. We thought nobody would notice, but apparently you did. You're also slowly finding out what's going on on the interplanetary level.

We would be worried about all that and we were thinking of ending your investigations once and for all. 

 But now, we need your help, because you have something we desperately need. It appears that what you think is of Indian descent, is, in fact, of highest importance to the government of LMAO-47. We've had friendly relations so far (and you seem to have observed some of their ambassador's visits), but they are now threatening with total destruction.

Mr. Pederson, we need your magic stones. We'll give you time until April 3rd to deliver them to our Alberta office, otherwise we'll come and get them.

Our Alberta office is located within the Edmonton International Airport. Go into the Starbucks in the South Terminal and ask the Janitor (you need to phrase this exactly) "Do you sell Alien Coffee?". He will then answer "What?" and you're allowed to enter the backroom,  where Agents Jones and Brown will await you.

 The future of all of us lies in your hands, Mr Pederson.

Agent Smith

 p.s. This message will self-delete in 72 hours.

rc_pinchey:

So you entered your dog into a horse show, so you could show off your dog's tricks, hoping that someone would turn your dog into a horse later on.

Yeah but it was pure silly of them to notify me that I was excluded. They could have just led us Swampies on. Making the final 20 could have been very tuff...

SpectateSwamp:

The WEB app didn't have to exist. I was hoping to get assistance making SSDS WebWise.

SSDS is fundamentally atool for searching a single file, this is never going to work on the internet. When people offered assistance you couldn't be arsed setting up sourceforge so people could help - stop claiming you are after help when you are doing nothing more than pushing your piece of shit software.

SpectateSwamp:

At the MashUp I would be demonstrating what the software could currently do

Search a single file; nothing to do with the contest rules.

SpectateSwamp:

Big screens, Aliens, Dino Mummies and Flashy Swampies. We'd have won.

Yet again you are spouting nonsense that has toss all to do with the questions you are being asked.