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Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?

Last post 02-27-2008 8:30 AM by ammoQ. 2511 replies.
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  • 02-02-2008 8:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Fantastic

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    I really hope MPS will keep this thread running... I really got used to this adorable bearded swamp creature... I would miss him so much if this thread died...

    I beg you, MPS! Don't let that happen!!

    Besides, I like the idea of the dungeon underneath the Swamp Shack. Maybe he'll collect all the SSDS deniers there. And let them eat each other. Or starve. Or first one, then the other.

    class Paula_Bean
    PAULA = "Brillant"

    def get_paula
    return PAULA
    end
    end
  • 02-02-2008 8:22 PM In reply to

    • SpectateSwamp
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    SSDS & NotePad very close

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    Benn:
    then do (usually) CTRL + End
    I love that Ctrl/end

    I was assuming you didn't have the source.txt file in your sights. I'm talking from the desktop with nothing running. double clicking on the file is fast but you have to have found it visually. But I guess you could have your 5 or 6 files sitting there. Under these circumstances it would be very close. Very close.

    Benn:
    how do you then add to / edit them? Let me guess - in Notepad?

    I seldom edit the files. But do add. with the 'e' option. A date and time stamp can automatically be inserted.

    I do rely on notepad to do minor amounts of editing. The 'ch' option passes the file named in prompt #1 to notepad to open.

    If I have mass editing to do I use the 'rrr' (search and replace) option.

     

     

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  • 02-02-2008 8:24 PM In reply to

    Re: SSDS & NotePad very close

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    What do "ww", "ch" and "rrr" stand for?
    class Paula_Bean
    PAULA = "Brillant"

    def get_paula
    return PAULA
    end
    end
  • 02-02-2008 8:42 PM In reply to

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    SSDS more than a NotePad - Much more

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    derula:
    What do "ww", "ch" and "rrr" stand for?

    'ww' is a screen saver search mode.

    'ch' opens the file with NotePad  I seldom use this one.

    'rrr' search and replace. If I load my 5000+ family pics in a different folder I use it to make the quick change.

     

    SSDS can do all the standard search stuff. I should be emphasising the OTHER stuff "f" for flash, export, sub searches

    Search returning url's and email addresses for use in browsers and email systems. No need to video the more common search uses.

     

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  • 02-03-2008 4:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: SSDS more than a NotePad - Much more

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    SpectateSwamp:

    SSDS can do all the standard search stuff. I should be emphasising the OTHER stuff "f" for flash, export, sub searches

    Search returning url's and email addresses for use in browsers and email systems. No need to video the more common search uses.

     

    Standard stuff apart from searching a filesystem for files that is. 

    You had your chance to prove yourself and chose not to accept the challenge you had been asking for, just like you never produced a video showing how to do any of the things people actually wanted to see. You have lost the 'showdown' by default and most of us no longer care what you think of SSDS, we certainly do not need more of your pointless videos being plugged on these forums.

  • 02-03-2008 6:31 AM In reply to

    Re: SSDS more than a NotePad - Much more

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    SpectateSwamp:
    derula:
    What do "ww", "ch" and "rrr" stand for?

    'ww' is a screen saver search mode.

    'ch' opens the file with NotePad  I seldom use this one.

    'rrr' search and replace. If I load my 5000+ family pics in a different folder I use it to make the quick change.

    Yeah, I know what they do. But what do they mean?

    class Paula_Bean
    PAULA = "Brillant"

    def get_paula
    return PAULA
    end
    end
  • 02-03-2008 8:13 AM In reply to

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    SSDS needs YOU

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    derula:

    SpectateSwamp:
    derula:
    What do "ww", "ch" and "rrr" stand for?

    'ww' is a screen saver search mode.

    'ch' opens the file with NotePad  I seldom use this one.

    'rrr' search and replace. If I load my 5000+ family pics in a different folder I use it to make the quick change.

    Yeah, I know what they do. But what do they mean?

    Means that I spent as much time in comming up with command names as the Guy that discovered GREP

    'ss' was the 'or' Screen Saver search. When I needed another for the 'and'. 'ss' was already used so I took 2 keys nearby 'ww' (ww used way more than ss)

    'ch' is for CHange file which is the command used to open and edit a text file using NotePad (very seldom used)

    'rrr' is for Replace Replace Replace this utility is really good at replacing text in large files. (seldom used)

    At the time they were not that important. As time passed. I had put the commands into control files and other templates. Then changing them to something more meaningful  wasn't so easy or quick. A good Skin will change all that. Help Help Help

    I should get back to my CamCorder. There are a couple demos showing the fun way this search keeps you in touch with your data. Random, BackGrounder, Search as a Spell-Checker. The navigation capabilities was the last main feature added. The idea was to put up a splash page with the options listed (1 thru 10max) Then based on the selection. (ie Skip ahead, skip back, take turn 1, 2, 3 , Beginning,,,) See the source.txt "24 November 2004" or "OPTION==" logic. I have done very little testing on this and will provide a template. Similar to the DVD autorun of random questions. (change the text in BACKGRD3.txt to make it yours) By providing a couple more simple uses, I may, just may get people looking a little deeper and trying some of the entertaining and useful features. Improving Search in their own way.

    Swamp Shack ain't so bad.

     

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  • 02-03-2008 10:54 AM In reply to

    Re: SSDS needs YOU

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    SpectateSwamp:
    Random, BackGrounder, Search as a Spell-Checker.

    Yeah, after all, who the f2k needs highly complex spell checking algorithms when you just can check the spelling randomly? That spell checker would be able to morph every sane and coherent sentence into Swampling Speech.

    class Paula_Bean
    PAULA = "Brillant"

    def get_paula
    return PAULA
    end
    end
  • 02-03-2008 11:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: SSDS needs YOU

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    SpectateSwamp:
    Means that I spent as much time in comming up with command names as the Guy that discovered GREP
    [G]lobal search for [R]egular [E]xpressions and [P]rint I tell you what - why don't you get back to us when you've implemented RegEx'es? DFA or NFA - don't care, but it'd bring SSDS up to about the level of 1976...
  • 02-03-2008 12:28 PM In reply to

    Re: SSDS needs YOU

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     And don't forget, Doug, we are talking about my dad here.  The Common Man.  The man who cannot be bothered to learn how to use GREP, nor to use SSDS.

  • 02-03-2008 1:15 PM In reply to

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    SSDS timer Broke!

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    The pause entry at prompt #2 makes it a textual screen saver.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7060921935075488561

    The program needs a better timer function at 'line_30316' in the source. It doesn't allow for short delays like 1/1000 after each character print. More like 1/100 delay is the shortest? Doing a demo does cause minor bugs to surface.

    http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt

     

     

     

     

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  • 02-03-2008 1:19 PM In reply to

    Re: SSDS timer Broke!

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     No-one cares, and no-one's going to fix your bugs for you. It's Desktop Search Showdown or nothing, and you've chosen nothing.

  • 02-03-2008 1:49 PM In reply to

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    SpectateSwamp:

    The pause entry at prompt #2 makes it a textual screen saver.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7060921935075488561

    The program needs a better timer function at 'line_30316' in the source. It doesn't allow for short delays like 1/1000 after each character print. More like 1/100 delay is the shortest? Doing a demo does cause minor bugs to surface.

    http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt

     

     

     

     

     

     

    hahaha that was terrible

     

    either do the showdown [you wont, you know you wont win] or  go away.

    re. OP, no-one realises the importance of ssds to the masses because    THAT IMPORTANCE DOES NOT EXIST YOU DELUDED FOOL

    SpectateSwamp needs a lobotomy
  • 02-03-2008 4:10 PM In reply to

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    SSDS runs with Indexers

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    jakkle:

    hahaha that was terrible

    Yup. I have my standards to keep.

    I would like to see somebody do a demo of random music play and selection. Some brave soul that isn't worried about the Net Legals, who will try and help those so egregiously injured, by your music theft. Watch out people here will report you.

    Video in the screen playing music. It's the music that is important. Somebody give it a try.

    SSDS is the only Desktop Search that isn't an Either/Or Search. This one does not conflict with the "Indexers" This is the ONLY 1 they will tolerate.

    You don't have to give up your precious ??? Search

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  • 02-03-2008 5:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: SSDS runs with Indexers

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    SpectateSwamp:

    I would like to see somebody do a demo of random music play and selection. Some brave soul that isn't worried about the Net Legals, who will try and help those so egregiously injured, by your music theft. Watch out people here will report you.

    Video in the screen playing music. It's the music that is important. Somebody give it a try.

    SSDS is the only Desktop Search that isn't an Either/Or Search. This one does not conflict with the "Indexers" This is the ONLY 1 they will tolerate.

    You don't have to give up your precious ??? Search

    None of that makes ANY sense. Learn to use the English language.

    No one is going to do demos for you. We can't be bothered to learn all of the arcane commands we'd need to accomplish anything with your "search". It's just not worth the time.

    To everyone else: Check out Swamp's utterly pointless, yet still hilarious, video of a large round rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0OEKxaFUig  I swear, his videos would be the most boring thing in the world if it weren't for the inanity of the commentary: "It's very round". Pure comedic genius.

  • 02-03-2008 5:34 PM In reply to

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    SpectateSwamp:
    I would like to see somebody do a demo of random music play and selection. Some brave soul that isn't worried about the Net Legals, who will try and help those so egregiously injured, by your music theft. Watch out people here will report you.

    Amarok can play random songs from your entire collection, among other things. Can SSDS do type as you find? Ill take that as no. Is the swamp a reference to the codebase?

    I can haz clue bat?
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  • 02-03-2008 6:08 PM In reply to

    • Renan_S2
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    Re: SSDS runs with Indexers

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    SpectateSwamp:
    by your music theft.
     

    Not all countries consider file sharing as "theft". 

         

    When all you have is a 9th Grade. education, all problems start looking like your Desktop. Search. (thank you, MasterPlanSoftware)
  • 02-03-2008 6:15 PM In reply to

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    Renan_S2:
    SpectateSwamp:
    by your music theft.
    Not all countries consider file sharing as "theft".
    Also not all music that is downloaded from the internet is non-free. I believe I have 3 GB of music from Legal Torrents, which is currently down. I would make a video of random music playing, but mpd makes for a lousy visual.
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  • 02-03-2008 8:17 PM In reply to

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    SSDS runs with Indexers and over EM

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    Lingerance:
    I would make a video of random music playing

    Please please do. Don't get in trouble for copyright music. The 'gf' option at prompt #2 will do the catalog of mp3. Anyway I can do another bad video explaining it. The video demo will have to be of random-random mpg. Because this data is everybody's. Using Cam Studio might be better for this application, rather than videoing in the screen?

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  • 02-03-2008 8:59 PM In reply to

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    SpectateSwamp:
    Lingerance:
    I would make a video of random music playing
    Please please do.
    Somehow you managed to miss the entire point of my post.
    If Linux+ is as boring as it usually is I might consider actually making two videos (one of SSDS and one of MPD). Although I think I should really be finishing Linux from scratch instead. Although I am curious to try this thing out, since I'll be building a vanilla XP Pro VM, is there any special programs I need to download first to run this? If so links would be much appreciated.

    For those curious; the full title of my Linux+ course is "Linux+: An introduction to Linux", as I have already been using Linux 8 years I find the course to be ample time to read BOFH and other various non-scholarly things.
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  • 02-04-2008 5:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?

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    This thread finally sold me to the idea of Desktop Search. I installed it, and lo and behold, I'm much happier! My happy desktop search engine! (The Real WTF® is that I posted an already very blurry half-resolution video to YouTube which lowers the resolution even more. Oh well =) Operates extremely well and doesn't use many system resources at all! A very nice program indeed, and it has made my life tremendously easy now. Searching through gigabytes of stuff in my home directory has never been easier!
    mysql> help contents;

    Nothing found
    Please try to run 'help contents' for a list of all accessible topics

    Desktop Search Rain - Gothic Computing's EASY button

    (Go wild^H^H^H^H figure)
  • 02-04-2008 8:03 AM In reply to

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    SSDS as a Reader

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    Lingerance:
    Somehow you managed to miss the entire point of my post.
    Missing the point seems to happen a lot in this thread. I'm even getting confused. And Dammit I'm clued in on Desktop Search.

    Lingerance:
    there any special programs I need to download first to run this? If so links would be much appreciated.

    The exe is at:

    http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/search.exe

    the source is there too

    http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt

    The start up. On first run it seems to jam up a bit. because it creates a few files and probably doesn't close one or 2. I don't know. But anyway at prompt #2 enter 'x' to exit out. Then start it again. It should be fine.

    Lingerance:
    the full title of my Linux+ course is "Linux+: An introduction to Linux",
    What an opportunity to use SSDS as a note and screen capture player. Do screen captures of the Linux stuff that fascinates you. Draw big RED blobs near the important detail. When a jpg like that shows up in the random display, you can use the 'p' (Previous) option to display back 40 results.

    Lingerance:
    read BOFH and other various non-scholarly things

    Not being much of a reader or music listener I haven't really tested out all the features. Like what font size and timing would I like to see in extra large scrolling text. What colors. If you do lots of reading from the net. Grab a copy and paste using the 'z' option at prompt #2 ('z' means put it at the end of the file) being that 'z' is at the end of the alphabet. Isn't it? What a great reader utility this is. Random is fun to try even with text.

    Desktop Search - Computing's EASY button
  • 02-04-2008 8:09 AM In reply to

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    SSDS lessons Tiring

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    WWWWolf:
    This thread finally sold me to the idea of Desktop Search. I installed it, and lo and behold, I'm much happier! My happy desktop search engine! (The Real WTF® is that I posted an already very blurry half-resolution video to YouTube which lowers the resolution even more. Oh well =) Operates extremely well and doesn't use many system resources at al