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Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
Last post 02-27-2008 8:30 AM by ammoQ. 2511 replies.
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td888


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
SpectateSwamp:
So I downloaded his desktop-thingie and tried it..... - Good going. I'll have to show you all the video possibilities. You'll change your mind. It's not crap. It's control of your data. video in a handwritten cook book. GoTo any page. Pause the video whatever. I'll show you how.
No thanks, I don't feel like visiting your swamphouse. I'll pause my video's myself.
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tdittmar


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
Cap'n Steve:
I find it rather disturbing that the ezinearticles URL contains the word expert: http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Doug_Pederson.
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elgate


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
td888:No thanks, I don't feel like visiting your swamphouse. I'll pause my video's myself. Are you sure? Because it's not that far out of your way: 4223 39 Ave Leduc, AB T9E 4X3
Spectate, am I correct? Edit: lets see your search do THAT :P
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DrPhil


- Joined on 01-08-2008
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Re: Slow down with the Questions
tdittmar: Cap'n Steve:
I find it rather disturbing that the ezinearticles URL contains the word expert: http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Doug_Pederson. Of the 8 'articles' he has posted, 5 are direct discussions of the greatness of his search application. If you read through them you will find numerous contridictions to the informaiton he has posted here on this and the alternate discussion board. As I have said before, he is an evangelical preacher trying to turn us to his religion - make us his 'swampies'. His other posts are interesting as well. Although there are some some good points in them, his telling us not to edit video is truely a WTF. That would be like us leaving all the bad, unusable code in the applicaiton rather than removing it! Dr. Phil
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elgate


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
elgate:4223 39 Ave Leduc, AB T9E 4X3
Spectate, am I correct? Or perhaps Doug Pederson Box 44 39 Riverside Whitecourt, Alberta Canada T7S 1N3 will suffice.
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tdittmar


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
Did anybody read is bio on CNET.com? It's here. He actually thinks of himself as a Computer Expertise Guru...
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MasterPlanSoftware


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
I loved: spectate swamp:I primarily use technology for:
I"ve been doing screen captures lots on major telephone billing change overs I had a couple thousand. showing exceptions, detailed steps
I have most of my emails since 1997
My system configuration:
A failing laptop and my main cpu for software development.
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tdittmar


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Re: Slow down with the Questions
I can't believe I'm spending wasting my lunch-break on this freak...
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SpectateSwamp


- Joined on 12-05-2006
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Cap'n Steve:
Right when I got my camcorder I got some beautiful video of this mushroom shaped cloud..
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/clouds
On further examination in slow motion and close up. There were all kinds of fast moving objects moving in and out.
Further video captured some strange strange movements. I posted one where a sparrow saw one and ruffed up his feathers to scare it off.
Anyway its something to do when you have too much time on your hands.
A guy a worked with at Shaw Cable in North Vancouver. Martyn Stubbs became famous for downloading NASA transmissions and recording them. Everything was comming in on Shaws large dishes. Now that's interesting video that I'd like to see.
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tdittmar


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SpectateSwamp: Cap'n Steve:
Right when I got my camcorder I got some beautiful video of this mushroom shaped cloud..
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/clouds
On further examination in slow motion and close up. There were all kinds of fast moving objects moving in and out.
Further video captured some strange strange movements. I posted one where a sparrow saw one and ruffed up his feathers to scare it off.
Anyway its something to do when you have too much time on your hands.
A guy a worked with at Shaw Cable in North Vancouver. Martyn Stubbs became famous for downloading NASA transmissions and recording them. Everything was comming in on Shaws large dishes. Now that's interesting video that I'd like to see.
Got banned again? Took the wrong TXT snippet to post here? Anyway, the link doesn't work...
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SpectateSwamp


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Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
elgate:
elgate:
4223 39 Ave Leduc, AB T9E 4X3
Spectate, am I correct?
Or perhaps
Doug Pederson Box 44 39 Riverside Whitecourt, Alberta Canada T7S 1N3 will suffice.
There is lots to know. This isn't the HALF of it. Visit the Swamp Shack and find out.
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death


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
SpectateSwamp, do you have a learning disabillity that prevents you from making and using written material or something? Screen capures are neat when you are doing something interesting and complicated, but screncaptires of your search... For who? If it were simple to use it would not need any "video tutorials",if its not simple to use its useless as "tool to the masses"(well, this it is anyway, but for the sake of the argument...). PS. Theres a thing called TRIPOD. It was invented some time ago. Perhaps you would consider using one when filming clouds and stuff? The camera shake is a disgrace. Not that I can understand why the fuck for would anybody waste 24-30fps to record something that a single photo would convey with much more detail...
So all know who I am: MasterPlanSoftware:
Congratulations you are the TRWTF.
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ender


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rc_pinchey: Even Hitler had supporters...
Godwin?
Because 10 billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness.
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rc_pinchey


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ender: rc_pinchey: Even Hitler had supporters...
Godwin? Tagged as such. I felt the thread was big enough to deserve it... :-)
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rc_pinchey


- Joined on 08-15-2007
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Re: More Spookie than Me.
SpectateSwamp: That's a fly, Swamp.
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SpectateSwamp


- Joined on 12-05-2006
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rc_pinchey:
SpectateSwamp:
That's a fly, Swamp.
Those are live flies in the birds mouth. Lots bigger than the Speck. Was that bird spooked or what. We need a bird expert to read the body language.
I've got more odd ball video. But you would just laugh. Oh Well.
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SpectateSwamp


- Joined on 12-05-2006
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Swampies wanted for DS ShowDown.
taylonr:"That guy's right. Desktop searching is easy" and never use your product.
How many times do I have to drill it into you all. Net Search and Desktop Search are from the opposite ends of the search spectrum. They are a long way from having a Real Desktop Search. A Desktop Search showdown with me and my Swampies will prove it to the World.
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rc_pinchey


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Re: Swampies wanted for DS ShowDown.
SpectateSwamp:A Desktop Search showdown with me and my Swampies will prove it to the World. You mean the one you already lost on the channel9 forums? Or a new one, that you're repeatedly failing to specify the details of so that it can't actually happen? DEFINE the phrase "Desktop Search showdown". WHAT DO YOU MEAN???
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Spectre


- Joined on 05-09-2007
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ender: rc_pinchey: Even Hitler had supporters...
Godwin?
Nah, the tag shows that is was done on purpose, thus the Godwin's Law is unapplicable.
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DrPhil


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
SpectateSwamp:
elgate:
elgate:
4223 39 Ave Leduc, AB T9E 4X3
Spectate, am I correct?
Or perhaps
Doug Pederson Box 44 39 Riverside Whitecourt, Alberta Canada T7S 1N3 will suffice.
There is lots to know. This isn't the HALF of it. Visit the Swamp Shack and find out.
Spectates constant invite to the Swamp Shack is a bit scary. Does anyone else get the "It puts the lotion on its skin" feeling?
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belgariontheking


- Joined on 08-20-2007
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Re: Swampies comming forward. Can't stop SSDS now.
MasterPlanSoftware: jakkle: MasterPlanSoftware: SpectateSwamp: I know desktop search. I wrote one. That works. No you didnt, and no it doesn't.
I love you, MasterPlanSoftware. Most. Disturbing. Post. Ever.
I love you, SpectateSwamp
SpectateSwamp exposing aliens. Obviously the World needs SSDS
[10:07] <fatdog> so from now on.. be sure to wear nice clean underwear [10:07] <mps> fatdog: That is simply not going to happen
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PJH


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Re: Swampies wanted for DS ShowDown.
SpectateSwamp: taylonr:"That guy's right. Desktop searching is easy" and never use your product.
How many times do I have to drill it into you all. Net Search and Desktop Search are from the opposite ends of the search spectrum.
But how can it be a search program if it can't search? That sorta makes it useless. You should really write a program that can do search, if you want to call it a search.
Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
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GettinSadda


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
Linux is not a code base. Or a distro. Or a kernel. It's an attitude. And it's not about Open Source. It's about a bunch of people who still think vi is a good config UI.
Notice: Phorm, and its agents including ISPs collecting data on Phorm's behalf, are specifically forbidden from performing any processing or monitoring of the content of the above post. Hence, under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 any such attempt to profile this page by Phorm or its agents is illegal.
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belgariontheking


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
MasterPlanSoftware: SpectateSwamp: belgariontheking:
So where does your handle come from?
A dream. Wow, just when I thought we had squeezed all the WTFiness out of him... you manage to get a little more... Amazing.
Actually, that came out of a conversation I had with some RL friends about our friend SS.
SpectateSwamp exposing aliens. Obviously the World needs SSDS
[10:07] <fatdog> so from now on.. be sure to wear nice clean underwear [10:07] <mps> fatdog: That is simply not going to happen
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PJH


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Spectre:thus the Godwin's Law is unapplicable.
Unpossible!
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SpectateSwamp


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belgariontheking:
MasterPlanSoftware:
SpectateSwamp:
belgariontheking:
So where does your handle come from?
A dream.
Wow, just when I thought we had squeezed all the WTFiness out of him... you manage to get a little more...
Amazing.
Actually, that came out of a conversation I had with some RL friends about our friend SS.
In the dream. Somebody said "The Guys down at Spectate Swamp really know what is going on" So I wanted to be part of that group. Why not
Soon as you get a copy of the code and look at it with SSDS you are a Swampie. Like it or not. Ha ha ha.
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taylonr


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Re: Swampies wanted for DS ShowDown.
SpectateSwamp:
taylonr:"That guy's right. Desktop searching is easy" and never use your product.
How many times do I have to drill it into you all. Net Search and Desktop Search are from the opposite ends of the search spectrum. They are a long way from having a Real Desktop Search. A Desktop Search showdown with me and my Swampies will prove it to the World.
Actually my point was, if type in "Desktop Search" into google, the first page (and associated ads) do NOT point to your product. They instead point to google, microsoft, yahoo and a few other desktop search products, that actually search my hard drive.
My point wasn't so much that I'd use Google et al. But rather, that with your product's naming, it will be almost impossible for someone to find your application. Because they'd have to weed through several pages of google to find what they're looking for. And to be honest, if I don't find what I want on the first page of search results, I rarely look at page 2, and almost never beyond that.
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belgariontheking


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Re: Swampies wanted for DS ShowDown.
SpectateSwamp:Net Search and Desktop Search are from the opposite ends of the search spectrum.
Google (and yahoo!?) have desktop search programs that will search your computer the same way they search the net. They are not opposite. They use the same methodology. In fact, all of the (FUCK SHIT deleting two characters with one strike of the backspace key again) data that yahoo searches for you has to be in one place. They are not actually searching the net. They are searching their index of what's on the net. Similarly, you are searching your index of what's on your computer. No difference. SpectateSwamp:They are a long way from having a Real Desktop Search
No they're not. They are, however, a long way from having a search that plays random videos. Because who would want that?
SpectateSwamp exposing aliens. Obviously the World needs SSDS
[10:07] <fatdog> so from now on.. be sure to wear nice clean underwear [10:07] <mps> fatdog: That is simply not going to happen
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SpectateSwamp


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EXE build is comming - More video
DrPhil: Spectates constant invite to the Swamp Shack is a bit scary.
Going to DrPhil House to get straightened out about Desktop Search would be scary.
Doesn't seem people have much fun at your place. We always enjoy ourselves at the Swamp Shack.
Don't come today. it's -33 below Celcius with a wind. Brrrrr
I didn't do any video yesterday. But today. I will. A farmer/swampie/friend has asked for a demo of the initial build of the search.exe. Any of you Swampies want to take this one on. Have you even tried the code out. Are you just whining about something you were afraid of. Don't be worry. I'll do another wonderful video to show you how. I don't know where he got his version of vb6. I'll ask.
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ender


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
IIRC, SpectateSwamp claimed somewhere in this thread that his Search would have no problems searching through concatenated Linux source tree. Let's see what happens:
Because 10 billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness.
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TDC


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Re: EXE build is comming - More video
SpectateSwamp:We always enjoy ourselves at the Swamp Shack. Who is "we"? I seriously doubt the plural. Kudos for finally using the quote button though. edit: ender: you've done it all wrong.. you need to use a camcorder!
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djork


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Good work, man. 10 minutes and no results. Even grep will print matches as it finds them...
"Frames securely mediate, by design. Secure multi-mediation is the future of all webbing."
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DrPhil


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
That is pretty sweet - an embedded animated gif - never seen one use to quite this largest scale.
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Spectre


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PJH: Spectre:thus the Godwin's Law is unapplicable.
Unpossible!
D'oh! This is what happens when you're too lazy to use a dictionary.
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Lingerance


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
DrPhil:That is pretty sweet - an embedded animated gif - never seen one use to quite this largest scale.
It isn't embedded though.
irc://irc.slashnet.org/#TDWTF (Redirects to #CodeLove ) Yo dawg I herd hoard you like to search so I put a 2TB txt file in yo SSDS so your memory's maxed out and your computer cant do shit? -- Nyquist
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stolen_username


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
You're my temporary hero for today.
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MarcB


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
ender:IIRC, SpectateSwamp claimed somewhere in this thread that his Search would have no problems searching through concatenated Linux source tree. Let's see what happens: <sarcasm level="+INFINITY"> What a lousy Swamp video... What's with this high-fallutin' screen capture business? You should know by now that the only POSSIBLE way to make an example video is to stick your camcorder in front of the monitor, at extreme zoom and tilted to the perfect angle to maximize LCD moire effect. There's also no audio, so there's no possibility of unintelligble mumbling in the background. And ... what's this? .gif? What the hell kind of video format is that. Everything has to be MPEG you know... only MPEG will properly show off all those spooks haunting the Swampie. </sarcasm>
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MarcB


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Re: EXE build is comming - More video
TDC:Who is "we"? I seriously doubt the plural. I suppose there might be a Mrs. Swamp. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that there's an XY version of Mr. Swamp. Must be horrible on Marital Relations Night though. "Just a minute, I know it's around here somewhere. Let me merge my appendages and run a search". "That's ok, dear, I'll just pop things up randomly until the right one shows up." and now, if you'll excuse me, I think I need to wash my skull out with bleach.
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MarcB


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
DrPhil:Does anyone else get the "It puts the lotion on its skin" feeling? Well, when you look at the place on Google Maps, you can see what the source of all the problems is... it's a Trailer Park... Explains a lot, it does.
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TDC


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
MarcB: DrPhil:Does anyone else get the "It puts the lotion on its skin" feeling? Well, when you look at the place on Google Maps, you can see what the source of all the problems is... it's a Trailer Park... Explains a lot, it does.
I see, so it is a cardboard shack.
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spenk


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
ender:IIRC, SpectateSwamp claimed somewhere in this thread that his Search would have no problems searching through concatenated Linux source tree. Let's see what happens:
I can't believe you actually bothered to do that ;) still makes it the best post in this thread so far.
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kaamoss


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
TDC: MarcB: DrPhil:Does anyone else get the "It puts the lotion on its skin" feeling? Well, when you look at the place on Google Maps, you can see what the source of all the problems is... it's a Trailer Park... Explains a lot, it does.
I see, so it is a cardboard shack.
I think that you meant to give this link.
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belgariontheking


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Re: Spectate Spook & Hooded Crow live at the riverside address.
As you zoom out, you find out exactly how much in the middle of buttf**king nowhere it is.
SpectateSwamp exposing aliens. Obviously the World needs SSDS
[10:07] <fatdog> so from now on.. be sure to wear nice clean underwear [10:07] <mps> fatdog: That is simply not going to happen
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SpectateSwamp


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Spectate swamp shack is on a river
belgariontheking:
As you zoom out, you find out exactly how much in the middle of buttf**king nowhere it is.
This is the only location in town that has access to the McLeod river. I got video of the Ice flow flushing out into the Athabasca river (2 times)
On a hot summer day you will see a Thousand tubers comming down the river. (that lasts about 1 week)
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Lingerance


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Re: Spectate swamp shack is on a river
SpectateSwamp:On a hot summer day you will see a Thousand tubers comming down the river. (that lasts about 1 week)
I thought it was impossible to have an orgasm when being raped.
irc://irc.slashnet.org/#TDWTF (Redirects to #CodeLove ) Yo dawg I herd hoard you like to search so I put a 2TB txt file in yo SSDS so your memory's maxed out and your computer cant do shit? -- Nyquist
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aythun


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Re: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
DrPhil:That is pretty sweet - an embedded animated gif - never seen one use to quite this largest scale.
It's a gif? I couldn't tell, I have animation disabled.
ender: using a gif is akin to taking SSDS seriously. Sane format, please.
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