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Last post 01-05-2009 6:54 AM by dhromed. 18 replies.
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  • 01-02-2009 3:15 PM

    Ctrl+what?

     While test-driving NDepend, I found the following tool-tip WTF:

     i18n FAIL

    Whoops. Better update those resource files for the next release, guys...

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  • 01-02-2009 3:31 PM In reply to

    • AltSysrq
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    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Does it display this for ANY shortcut that uses the Shift key, or is it just that one button? I would expect an application to generate such shortcut hints based on the user's settings. If it is just that button, I find that a bit WTF-ish in itself.

  • 01-02-2009 4:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    It looks like (at least some of) the shortcut hints for the buttons are localized by hand. None of the other buttons on any of the other toolbars have this scatalogical issue, nor do any of the shortcuts that are displayed in the "Customize" menu. It's only 3 or 4 buttons on the "View" toolbar, and only when they are displayed in toolbar form.

  • 01-02-2009 4:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    So hit control, dropped a deuce, and then hit D, and my views aren't reset yet.  Plus I have this mess in my pants.
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  • 01-02-2009 4:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    belgariontheking:
    So hit control, dropped a deuce, and then hit D, and my views aren't reset yet.  Plus I have this mess in my pants.
     

    So who gets the bug report? NDepend, or your gastroenterologist?

  • 01-02-2009 6:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    protected static:

     While test-driving NDepend, I found the following tool-tip WTF:

     i18n FAIL

    Whoops. Better update those resource files for the next release, guys...

     

    This is just an accessibility feature that targets those with bowel control issues!

  • 01-02-2009 9:46 PM In reply to

    • AltSysrq
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    Re: Ctrl+what?

    belgariontheking:
    So hit control, dropped a deuce, and then hit D, and my views aren't reset yet. Plus I have this mess in my pants.

    The point is to reset the views to work with Dependency, that is, The Matrix (and The Graph, whatever that is). Are you in The Matrix? If not, there was nothing for that button to do, so nothing it did.

  • 01-02-2009 10:47 PM In reply to

    • AltSysrq
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    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Soviut:
    This is just an accessibility feature that targets those with bowel control issues!

    If that's the case, is there are buttons with shortcuts like Alt+Urinate+X for women that haven't had the "Detrol discussion" with their doctors? And a Shift+BeSocialist+TellPeopleTheWorldIsWarming+O for democrats?

  • 01-03-2009 4:58 AM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Uhm, where is the WTF? I just see a tooltip mentioning a keyboard shortcut.
  • 01-03-2009 5:27 AM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    henke37:
    Uhm, where is the WTF? I just see a tooltip mentioning a keyboard shortcut.
    Read the shortcut very carefully.
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  • 01-03-2009 7:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Lingerance:
    henke37:
    Uhm, where is the WTF? I just see a tooltip mentioning a keyboard shortcut.
    Read the shortcut very carefully.
     

    Not being able to see the WTF probably comes from reading lots of forums where lots of typos are made. It took me a few minutes to see it too! :(

  • 01-03-2009 5:57 PM In reply to

    • Steeldragon
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    Re: Ctrl+what?

     WTF-Meterthe wtf-meter rating.

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    Or
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  • 01-04-2009 10:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    AltSysrq:

    Does it display this for ANY shortcut that uses the Shift key, or is it just that one button? I would expect an application to generate such shortcut hints based on the user's settings. If it is just that button, I find that a bit WTF-ish in itself.

    Yes, people do type out shortcuts by hand, e.g. Windows Media Player 6.4.09.1129 in Windows 2000 (also 6.4.09.1130 in XP Home):

    Crtl+S

    Likewise QuickTime Player 7.1

    Ctr+U
  • 01-04-2009 12:06 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    belgariontheking:
    So hit control, dropped a deuce, and then hit D, and my views aren't reset yet.  Plus I have this mess in my pants.

     You were not wearing NDepends at the time?

     

  • 01-04-2009 7:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Daniel Beardsmore:
    Yes, people do type out shortcuts by hand

    One thing to note about keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+W, Ctrl+S, etc.) and menu shortcuts (Close, Save As, etc.) is they don't always correspond. Keyboard shortcuts are global so they can easily run out of letters and key combinations throughout the entire application.  Menu shortcuts are localized to their specific menu and will only conflict within said menu.  Its not unreasonable to find situations where keyboard shortcuts and menu shortcuts for a particular menu can't overlap do to local/global conflicts.

    Still, in both your examples, the menu shortcuts don't have any conflicts, and they're standard Save and Close commands that have had well defined shortcuts for decades, so its still WTF-y.

  • 01-04-2009 7:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Soviut:

    One thing to note about keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+W, Ctrl+S, etc.) and menu shortcuts (Close, Save As, etc.) is they don't always correspond...

    What has this got to do with anything? The issue was, if a keyboard shortcut is set to Ctrl+O, why is the physical string "Ctrl+O" typed out letter by letter? The OS knows (or, should know!) that the menu item is invoked by holding ctrl and striking O, so surely the OS would then render the shortcut string in the menu for you?

  • 01-05-2009 5:22 AM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    Daniel Beardsmore:
    What has this got to do with anything?
     

    Your screenshots illustrated the discrepancy between the listed shorcut and the underlined character, so everybody assumed this was your point.

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  • 01-05-2009 5:56 AM In reply to

    • julmu
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    Re: Ctrl+what?

    dhromed:

    Daniel Beardsmore:
    What has this got to do with anything?
     

    Your screenshots illustrated the discrepancy between the listed shorcut and the underlined character, so everybody assumed this was your point.

    I think the screenshots were meant to illustrate the fact that some shortcuts use Crtl and Ctr instead of Ctrl
  • 01-05-2009 6:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Ctrl+what?

    julmu:
    dhromed:

    Daniel Beardsmore:
    What has this got to do with anything?
     

    Your screenshots illustrated the discrepancy between the listed shorcut and the underlined character, so everybody assumed this was your point.

    I think the screenshots were meant to illustrate the fact that some shortcuts use Crtl and Ctr instead of Ctrl
     

     I can't believe I noticed the error in the OP's shot, but not Daniel's. *shame*

    Thanks.

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